Why Have I Never Heard Anyone Say that the Stooges Were Overrated?

LoathsomePete · 08-12-2014, 01:01 PM

Raw Power was my first Stooges album and James Williamson is just a better guitar player than Ron Asheton. I will admit that Funhouse was an interesting concept, making it sound like a live album but done in a studio, but I just loved the intensity of Raw Power.

The Batlord · 08-12-2014, 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by LoathsomePete

Raw Power was my first Stooges album and James Williamson is just a better guitar player than Ron Asheton. I will admit that Funhouse was an interesting concept, making it sound like a live album but done in a studio, but I just loved the intensity of Raw Power.

I used to be a Funhouse man, but Raw Power has definitely replaced it. With the slight exception of "Dirt" I love pretty much every song on that album, but the A-Side is kind of repetitive. The B-Side is brilliant though. I love how it slowly deconstructs and loses song structure as it goes on before completely going off the rails with "LA Blues".

Dylstew · 08-12-2014, 03:25 PM

That's because they're great. Okay, I've only listened to every studio album except ready to die once,
and I can only like, remember a single song on top of my head, but from what I remember, they're great.

Urban Hat€monger ? · 08-12-2014, 03:47 PM

I think your perspective on this depends on how old you are.

I first became aware of non chart music in the mid to late 80s and the Stooges were just never mentioned back then. You might see Funhouse or Raw Power buried near the bottom on the occasional album list but that was it. I think the only thing I knew about them was Iggy used to be their singer and they wrote No Fun which I'd heard the Pistols do first.

It wasn't until the 90s with the grunge/ alternate rock/ 70s nostalgia thing took off that I began to see them in the media saying oh what a great band they were and giving them credit for anything substantial.

So basically I can understand if someone under the age of 25 thinks they're overrated but would be surprised if anyone older said that, unless they really disliked them already.

RoxyRollah · 08-12-2014, 03:51 PM

Damn you Urban!

neardeathexperience · 08-13-2014, 09:29 AM

Personally I really did not like the Stooges, but I did appreciate the fact that they were real and from what I could see just wanted to play their kind of music. They screamed authentic in what you see is what you got and for that I can understand how some people really liked them.

Black Francis · 08-13-2014, 09:49 AM

it's funny i was thinking something similar to this but instead of with the stooges i thought it with the pixies.. the worst ive heard about them is that their new stuff sucks.

regarding the stooges i don't know alot about them but i don't hear them get mentioned often and get highly praised which i think is the main reason why ppl start to oppose a band and start calling them overrated.

i personally don't think they are overrated cause honestly i don't really care much about them i recognise the impact they had on music but that's about it.

**Janszoon** · 08-13-2014, 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Urban Hat€monger ?

I think your perspective on this depends on how old you are.

I first became aware of non chart music in the mid to late 80s and the Stooges were just never mentioned back then. You might see Funhouse or Raw Power buried near the bottom on the occasional album list but that was it. I think the only thing I knew about them was Iggy used to be their singer and they wrote No Fun which I'd heard the Pistols do first.

It wasn't until the 90s with the grunge/ alternate rock/ 70s nostalgia thing took off that I began to see them in the media saying oh what a great band they were and giving them credit for anything substantial.

So basically I can understand if someone under the age of 25 thinks they're overrated but would be surprised if anyone older said that, unless they really disliked them already.

This. I don't think of them as overrated because I don't think of them as being all that highly rated. I feel like they're more important for their place in history that for the actual music they produced.

The Batlord · 08-13-2014, 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon

This. I don't think of them as overrated because I don't think of them as being all that highly rated. I feel like they're more important for their place in history that for the actual music they produced.

Really? I can believe that a lot of their current popularity is hindsight based, but I still hear their music praised about as much as most any other band they're mentioned with, like the VU. They're not necessarily as innovative as some of their art rock/proto-punk/whatever peers, but as far as having a unique, original sound that grabs your attention by balls they're on par with any of them. I mean, I certainly love the way that "1970" slowly deconstructs into the almost pure jam/freak out/whatever of "Funhouse", which then completely dissolves into stream-of-conscious noise with "LA Blues", but the VU definitely realized that unstructured, spontaneous thing the Stooges were going for better with "Sister Ray". I think Flipper actually did the same thing with "Sex Bomb" too, and realized it more fully as well. But I prefer the base sound of the Stooges more than either of those bands, even if they couldn't quite capture their intentions as well on record. Whatever deficiencies they may have had were more than made up for by a visceral instinct for rock'n'roll that is unmatched by the vast majority of bands.

drummerboy95 · 08-13-2014, 04:52 PM

The Stooges have never been overrated nor underrated to me, I just think their influential in the creation of heavy metal and punk in America.

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LoathsomePete Cardboard Box Realtor Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Hobb's End Posts: 7,648	Raw Power was my first Stooges album and James Williamson is just a better guitar player than Ron Asheton. I will admit that Funhouse was an interesting concept, making it sound like a live album but done in a studio, but I just loved the intensity of Raw Power. __________________ Last.FM 101 Albums That May Not Change Your Life, But I Really Like And You Might Too

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Urban Hat€monger ? The Sexual Intellectual Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Somewhere cooler than you Posts: 18,605	I think your perspective on this depends on how old you are. I first became aware of non chart music in the mid to late 80s and the Stooges were just never mentioned back then. You might see Funhouse or Raw Power buried near the bottom on the occasional album list but that was it. I think the only thing I knew about them was Iggy used to be their singer and they wrote No Fun which I'd heard the Pistols do first. It wasn't until the 90s with the grunge/ alternate rock/ 70s nostalgia thing took off that I began to see them in the media saying oh what a great band they were and giving them credit for anything substantial. So basically I can understand if someone under the age of 25 thinks they're overrated but would be surprised if anyone older said that, unless they really disliked them already. __________________ Urb's RYM Stuff Most people sell their soul to the devil, but the devil sells his soul to Nick Cave.

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Black Francis Out of Place Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: in an abstract house Posts: 4,111	it's funny i was thinking something similar to this but instead of with the stooges i thought it with the pixies.. the worst ive heard about them is that their new stuff sucks. regarding the stooges i don't know alot about them but i don't hear them get mentioned often and get highly praised which i think is the main reason why ppl start to oppose a band and start calling them overrated. i personally don't think they are overrated cause honestly i don't really care much about them i recognise the impact they had on music but that's about it. __________________ "Hey Kids you got to meet the MIGHTY PIXIES!" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JbRbCtIgW3A

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Dylstew Music Addict Join Date: Feb 2014 Posts: 1,366	That's because they're great. Okay, I've only listened to every studio album except ready to die once, and I can only like, remember a single song on top of my head, but from what I remember, they're great.

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neardeathexperience Music Addict Join Date: Jan 2013 Posts: 531	Personally I really did not like the Stooges, but I did appreciate the fact that they were real and from what I could see just wanted to play their kind of music. They screamed authentic in what you see is what you got and for that I can understand how some people really liked them.

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drummerboy95 Groupie Join Date: Aug 2014 Posts: 11	The Stooges have never been overrated nor underrated to me, I just think their influential in the creation of heavy metal and punk in America.