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James 07-30-2014 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by blackdragon123 (Post 1473933)
I wonder what she did for an encore....

The same thing, backwards.

Ninetales 07-30-2014 03:40 PM

Rihanna > Monae

Rihanna is an artist

eh eh eh

goodbye.


Rihanna - Umbrella (Orange Version) ft. JAY-Z - YouTube

Soulflower 07-30-2014 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Vanilla (Post 1473928)
I absolutely agree, Stay is incredible. I like some 60's pop but most of it is rubbish like a majority of pop songs today. It's never going to change. No matter how many threads you make about the same, damn thing.

I think that the majority of stars are told what they need to do by their label but generally they get to decide which songs suit them (by ghost writers), what type of concert sets they like and of course what they wear (although they will have stylists too). Lady Gaga is a good example of controlling the reigns of the information, songs, outfits, sets, etc. She is talented however many have said before she is too talented for pop songs. In saying that, I know a lot of people are the reason she is here today. People who helped come up with her name, managers, publicists, people who supported her financially.


Lady Gaga is a gimmick just like the rest of her peers. How is she more in control of her image compared to her peers?

Soulflower 07-30-2014 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Ninetales (Post 1473937)
Rihanna > Monae

Rihanna is an artist

eh eh eh

goodbye.


Rihanna - Umbrella (Orange Version) ft. JAY-Z - YouTube


So I guess you are not going to produce these receipts of Rihanna writing her own songs before receiving them?

Gotcha! ;)

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djchameleon 07-30-2014 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by realtalk92 (Post 1473931)

Can you please explain to me how she was able to receive a co credit when she receives all her completed songs prior to recording them?

How could she possibly receive a credit when she was not involved in writing the song?

I had no idea you sat in the studio and watched those co-writers hand Rihanna songs so that she can only change a word or two.

You must have some great connections.

Soulflower 07-30-2014 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by James (Post 1473932)
But that 'prancing' around the stage is just another aspect of the performance. Maybe it wasn't Whitney's style to put on a show like that because she could rely simply on her voice but Rihanna's public image and her stage show are just another element of her artistic oeuvre.

To reiterate, in the turn of the nineteenth century there was this popular Polish actress who used to sell out theatres, leave her audience in hysterical tears every night - just from reciting the alphabet. Her material wasn't important, this woman just had such a gorgeous way of expressing herself that she could draw out that much feeling from her audience. That's art to me.

And I understand that, sex is her brand..I get that but that poster was making it seem like Rihanna was a Whitney or a Luther as far as her vocals lol

Soulflower 07-30-2014 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by djchameleon (Post 1473945)
I had no idea you sat in the studio and watched those co-writers hand Rihanna songs so that she can only change a word or two.

You must have some great connections.


Rihanna receives her songs before she records them. She does not participate in a collaborative effort to create the songs. The songwriters who actually write the songs say this themselves.

Ninetales 07-30-2014 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by realtalk92 (Post 1473944)
So I guess you are not going to produce these receipts of Rihanna writing her own songs before receiving them?

Burden of proof is not on me anymore.

Soulflower 07-30-2014 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Ninetales (Post 1473948)
Burden of proof is not on me anymore.


Ah, yes it is..... because I asked you to provide an article or info where it states she wrote a song and not changed one word of a song that was already a completed song.

James 07-30-2014 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by realtalk92 (Post 1473952)
Ah, yes it is..... because I asked you to provide an article or info where it states she wrote a song and not changed one word of a song that was already a completed song.

Why would anyone have that information? That is not something that is out there.


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