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Frownland 09-21-2014 12:41 AM

Nevermind. I find only calling trendy things pop friendly to be kind of arbitrary because, as DWV said, pop just means popular. Like I said before, how can an artist become so popular if they weren't pop friendly?

Soulflower 09-21-2014 12:43 AM

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Originally Posted by DwnWthVwls (Post 1489482)
Janelle Monae is way more popular than most artists can ever dream of being. I think it's safe to say she has made it. I don't think radio play and popular music videos are the end all be all to defining success in the industry.

Prince loves her and backs her so I'd say she made it! Lol

She is more popular than an indie artist but I wouldn't call her a "pop star"

She is not selling out arena's or is heavily marketed.

She is an artist that deserves to be a pop star though.

Frownland 09-21-2014 12:45 AM

Until Janelle Monae is the president of the United States I think it's safe to say that she's incredibly underrated.

DwnWthVwls 09-21-2014 12:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Soulflower (Post 1489486)
She is more popular than an indie artist but I wouldn't call her a "pop star"

Really? I would.

She's not super star status, but I think she is representative of that 1%.

Same with Lana Del Rey, FUN, etc. They are not dominating the charts but they've had their hits and are widely known.

Soulflower 09-21-2014 12:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1489485)
Nevermind. I find only calling trendy things pop friendly to be kind of arbitrary because, as DWV said, pop just means popular. Like I said before, how can an artist become so popular if they weren't pop friendly?

But we are not talking about popular music in "general terms".

Of course if a rock singer makes a rock song that becomes popular, the fact that it is a rock song does not matter because it is still popular therefore making it a pop song.

However,

We are discussing what is typically defined as pop friendly in TODAY's music scene based on TODAY's current pop trends and based on TODAY's current trends, Adele's music is not typical pop friendly music in today's mainstream market.

Soulflower 09-21-2014 12:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1489487)
Until Janelle Monae is the president of the United States I think it's safe to say that she's incredibly underrated.

Yes she is.


She is soooooooooooooooooo underrated.

Frownland 09-21-2014 12:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Soulflower (Post 1489491)
But we are not talking about popular music in "general terms".

Of course if a rock singer makes a rock song that becomes popular, the fact that it is a rock song does not matter because it is still popular therefore making it a pop song.

However,

We are discussing what is typically defined as pop friendly in TODAY's music scene based on TODAY's current pop trends and based on TODAY's current trends, Adele's music is not typical pop friendly music.

No, that's what you're discussing as I define it differently. Carry on.

Soulflower 09-21-2014 01:03 AM

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Originally Posted by DwnWthVwls (Post 1489489)
Really? I would.

She's not super star status, but I think she is representative of that 1%.

Same with Lana Del Rey, FUN, etc. They are not dominating the charts but they've had their hits and are widely known.


What hits?

Janelle Monae has never had a Top 10 hit let alone a Top 40.

She is not a Top 40 artist.

She is not a pop star.

She is not widely known.

A pop star is someone who is constantly on the radio, winning awards, performing at awards etc.

FUN and Lana are definitely not pop stars. lol

Soulflower 09-21-2014 01:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Frownland (Post 1489495)
No, that's what you're discussing as I define it differently. Carry on.

I will carry on, thanks.

Frownland 09-21-2014 01:05 AM

Hitting No. 5 on the Billboard charts with The Electric Lady kinda hints that a few people know about her.


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