Why does the mainstream industry only want a select few to be popular?

djchameleon · 07-31-2014, 03:30 PM

He has two socially conscious songs out of how many other artists and their club party songs.

He didn't even lead with that song. He went with his catchy party song first.

Black Francis · 07-31-2014, 03:47 PM

I don't have a straight answer for this but i have noticed how popularity comes first to professionalism, that is to say you don't have to be the best singer to be the most popular singer but i don't blame the industry for this i blame the consumers, the way i see it is if the masses want ****ty pop singers that's what they'll give us and they'll keep giving them to us as long as the majority of ppl are into that, now hipsters or anyone who falls in the statistics as a minority can also have their brand of music but it won't be as popular..

i think all of us who don't follow every popular trend in music have made peace with that, we know the bands we love aren't exactly the most popular ones yet we also now that most of them also have a cult following so even as a minority there are still thousands of ppl that luv the same bands you love.

I can't take into account ppl's subjective taste in music so i see it as a numbers game, who is the majority and who is the minority.

Carpe Mortem · 07-31-2014, 03:53 PM

^Sometimes, I just wanna pinch your little cheeks and give you a gold star. Good job.

~~Soulflower~~ · 07-31-2014, 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Black Francis

I don't have a straight answer for this but i have noticed how popularity comes first to professionalism, that is to say you don't have to be the best singer to be the most popular singer but i don't blame the industry for this i blame the consumers, the way i see it is if the masses want ****ty pop singers that's what they'll give us and they'll keep giving them to us as long as the majority of ppl are into that, now hipsters or anyone who falls in the statistics as a minority can also have their brand of music but it won't be as popular..

i think all of us who don't follow every popular trend in music have made peace with that, we know the bands we love aren't exactly the most popular ones yet we also now that most of them also have a cult following so even as a minority there are still thousands of ppl that luv the same bands you love.

I can't take into account ppl's subjective taste in music so i see it as a numbers game, who is the majority and who is the minority.

Muah! and great post!

I think the masses are very very naive and easily swayed. They seem to conform to what the media tells them to do or what seems popular. If its constantly played on the radio or is marketed as "the best" they eat it up like its candy even if it is mediocre. I am glad I am not like that.

Black Francis · 07-31-2014, 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Carpe Mortem

^Sometimes, I just wanna pinch your little cheeks and give you a gold star. Good job.

Oh sweet sweet validation how i luv thee~<3

thnx Carpe.

I think this popularity thing goes beyond music though, In movies nowadays any public figure can be an actor, Is Ludacris a good enough actor to appear in all those Fast & The furious movies? No, but he is Ludacris so that's good enough and Ice T who made a song call "Cop killer" is now a Tv cop and ppl always accept this transition because of how popular they are..

i mean that guy from the Real world Mike something is now a professional wrestler! and we just accept this cause we don't really care about qualifications anymore, we know how fake the process is and we still buy into it and if you don't buy into it you're not more special than those who do you just seek another form of entertainment that is probably full of bullsh*t too.

Isbjørn · 07-31-2014, 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Black Francis

I don't have a straight answer for this but i have noticed how popularity comes first to professionalism, that is to say you don't have to be the best singer to be the most popular singer but i don't blame the industry for this i blame the consumers, the way i see it is if the masses want ****ty pop singers that's what they'll give us and they'll keep giving them to us as long as the majority of ppl are into that, now hipsters or anyone who falls in the statistics as a minority can also have their brand of music but it won't be as popular..

i think all of us who don't follow every popular trend in music have made peace with that, we know the bands we love aren't exactly the most popular ones yet we also now that most of them also have a cult following so even as a minority there are still thousands of ppl that luv the same bands you love.

I can't take into account ppl's subjective taste in music so i see it as a numbers game, who is the majority and who is the minority.

I don't think the masses really want ****ty singers. I just think they don't give a damn and will listen to anything that's popular as long as it doesn't hurt their ears. If, say, Jets to Brazil were heavily marketed, more people would listen to them, which makes them chart higher, which in turn makes even more people listen to them. People are lazy and will listen to whatever's popular at the moment. If crap's on the radio/charts/YouTube top lists, then so be it.

Black Francis · 07-31-2014, 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by realtalk92

Muah! and great post!

I think the masses are very very naive and easily swayed. They seem to conform to what the media tells them to do or what seems popular. If its constantly played on the radio or is marketed as "the best" they eat it up like its candy even if it is mediocre. I am glad I am not like that.

That's the thing though you yourself are part of those masses you just represent another side of it...

even your rebellion is part of the system now, it's all taken into account and that's why you have your brand of music you like, in a way we are just big targets to sell products to, you might think you are special just because of your taste but truth is you are tying your identity to a product that is not sold exclusively to you it is sold to others with similar taste. to mass produced products (Btw im using 'you' as a general term, not you personally realtalk)

Ninetales · 07-31-2014, 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by realtalk92

I think the masses are very very naive and easily swayed. They seem to conform to what the media tells them to do or what seems popular. If its constantly played on the radio or is marketed as "the best" they eat it up like its candy even if it is mediocre. I am glad I am not like that.

good description on the beatles.

~~James~~ · 07-31-2014, 05:23 PM

I think the minute you start separating yourself from 'the masses' that's when you become elitist and pretentious. We're all consumers, just because we listen to different music it doesn't make us better than everyone else.

And deej - Thrift Shop still kind of had a message.

~~Soulflower~~ · 07-31-2014, 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by James

I think the minute you start separating yourself from 'the masses' that's when you become elitist and pretentious. We're all consumers, just because we listen to different music it doesn't make us better than everyone else.

And deej - Thrift Shop still kind of had a message.

You are right thats how music snobs are created.

However, I think its good for people to follow their heart and like what they like. To often, society and the media condemns people who choose to be individuals. I think people should like what they like and not conform to what others like simply because its popular. There are a ton of popular things I like but I like it because I like it and its not because I am trying to follow others.

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Black Francis Out of Place Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: in an abstract house Posts: 4,111	I don't have a straight answer for this but i have noticed how popularity comes first to professionalism, that is to say you don't have to be the best singer to be the most popular singer but i don't blame the industry for this i blame the consumers, the way i see it is if the masses want **ty pop singers that's what they'll give us and they'll keep giving them to us as long as the majority of ppl are into that, now hipsters or anyone who falls in the statistics as a minority can also have their brand of music but it won't be as popular.. i think all of us who don't follow every popular trend in music have made peace with that, we know the bands we love aren't exactly the most popular ones yet we also now that most of them also have a cult following so even as a minority there are still thousands of ppl that luv the same bands you love. I can't take into account ppl's subjective taste in music so i see it as a numbers game, who is the majority and who is the minority. __________________ "Hey Kids you got to meet the MIGHTY PIXIES!"** http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JbRbCtIgW3A

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~~James~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Scotland Posts: 4,483	I think the minute you start separating yourself from 'the masses' that's when you become elitist and pretentious. We're all consumers, just because we listen to different music it doesn't make us better than everyone else. And deej - Thrift Shop still kind of had a message.