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Only same gendered people should cover the song | 0 | 0% | |
Opposite gender can cover, should retain original lyrics | 7 | 43.75% | |
Opposite gender can cover, should alter lyrics slightly to suit gender | 5 | 31.25% | |
anal beads | 4 | 25.00% | |
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06-27-2014, 05:42 AM | #11 (permalink) |
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I don't understand why it would be an issue. Singers often sing lyrics where they're expressing the words of a character rather than being autobiographical. How is this any different than that?
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06-28-2014, 08:23 AM | #13 (permalink) |
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I think it`s mainly dj and Carpe M who are saying "Go ahead and change the lyrics" and I`d agree with them.
Firstly, gender changes are not always about appeasing homophobics as some posters seem to`ve assumed. As Carpe demonstrates with her well-chosen examples, it`s about how convincing the song sounds. Secondly, isn`t the whole point of doing a cover song to put something of yourself into the original ? Musically and lyrically, a slavish imitation of the original is a pretty sterile exercise imo. No need to treat song lyrics like Moses treated the word of God; I say change lyrics around as much as you like and let time -or the public- decide if it`s an improvement or a travesty. In effect, what dj said. Usually I like a vocalist to sound sincere and sometimes a gender change helps that along. As Janszoon mentions, there are plenty of songs in which the singer adopts the voice of a different persona, but my suspicion is that those are less common and often less powerful than the confessional "this is the real me" song. Which rather brings us back to this thread:- http://www.musicbanter.com/general-m...-matter-3.html
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06-28-2014, 09:14 AM | #14 (permalink) | ||
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I'm not opposed to changing the lyrics by the way, I'm just saying I don't think it's a big deal or find it distracting if they stay the same. Quote:
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06-28-2014, 10:54 AM | #15 (permalink) | |||
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"... there are plenty of songs in which the singer adopts the voice of a different persona, but my suspicion is that those are less common and often less powerful than the confessional "this is the real me" song. " It did occur to me that this was a rather monstrous generalisation, so you`re quite right to be picking me up on it! :- Quote:
Watch a movie or open a novel and usually I am already thinking, "Ok, I want to hear a story", but that`s not my usual plan when I listen to music. Maybe my attitude is more, "Ok, tell it like it is." In terms of presentation, I think there`s a significant difference here: in a movie or a novel, you can lose yourself in the story and forget the director or novelist if you want. At one level, they are just a name in the credits. A singer`s presence is harder to ignore, though; it`s very clear who is delivering the material and sometimes that works as a restraint; it`s not so easy to make an imaginative leap of the kind that seems so natural with books and movies. That is not to deny though, that there are many great songs involving empathy/imagination or interpretation of someone else`s experience...maybe I need to type less and think more on this topic!!
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06-28-2014, 11:26 AM | #16 (permalink) | |
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I like it MORE when they keep the original pronouns because to me it's the musical version of no homo to think it's mandatory to make the pronouns heteronormative. It's almost like being represented in media! |
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