Has music become pussified?

RoxyRollah · 04-04-2014, 11:42 AM

Your arms are every bit as creepy and morbid as I suspected.

Carpe Mortem · 04-04-2014, 02:13 PM

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If it makes you feel any better I'd totally grope you to My Dying Bride.

Where were you when I was 16 and lonely? I'm older, fatter, more wrinkly and quite taken now

Paul Smeenus · 04-04-2014, 02:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Carpe Mortem

Where were you when I was 16 and lonely? I'm older, fatter, more wrinkly and quite taken now

He was peeping through the bedroom window standing on a milk crate.

Andrey · 04-04-2014, 06:22 PM

kind of yes

RoxyRollah · 04-04-2014, 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Andrey

kind of yes

As opposed to? Would you be kind enough to expound upon your answer for me?

I read your thoughts on music from the UK and you are on the right track in my opinion.

I am curious, what the basis for your answer is.

RL Clown · 04-06-2014, 10:28 AM

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When I say pussified, I'm not talking about music becoming too feminine/less masculine, but rather how modern day music has become too soft with no daring messages.

Most of us know about the controversial artists throughout music history. Not only was their music engaging, but their ideas were as well and they had something to say. Regardless of their politics, they all made an effort to challenge different social norms of their time.

Elvis simply challenged social norms just by performing in unconventional ways, John Lennon was a peace activist, David Bowie challenged norms surrounding gender and sexuality, Marilyn Manson actively challenged religion, etc. There are too many to be mentioned, but all of these artists seemed to stand for something and meant what they said.

Sadly, I can't say the same about mainstream stars today. If you really take a look at the musical landscape, the most offensive or "out there" artist is Lady Gaga, and that's sad. I love Gaga, but she doesn't really push any boundaries and is mostly a safe artist who just dresses differently.

I don't want this to come off as a "back in my day" type of thread, but modern music to me has no message or meaning. There's no rebellious spirit or groundbreaking artists in the mainstream, whereas in the past there was at least two or three significant artists per decade that made a difference musically and culturally. I just don't see that with today's artists.

Thoughts?

Music has become softer, generally speaking... Back in the 90's, Eminem challenged many people. He lived up to his image; he wasn't afraid of the media. He didn't give a f**k what other people thought. But when I look at today's musicians, nobody wants to push the boundaries. Maybe it's because parents worry too much about their children... Parents don't want their children to listen to "bad music". So mainstream music was forced to become softer over the years. However, underground music still has some hardcore musicians. Look at ICP and Twiztid. I advise you to listen to their songs on youtube.

**Janszoon** · 04-06-2014, 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by RL Clown

Music has become softer, generally speaking... Back in the 90's, Eminem challenged many people. He lived up to his image; he wasn't afraid of the media. He didn't give a f**k what other people thought. But when I look at today's musicians, nobody wants to push the boundaries. Maybe it's because parents worry too much about their children... Parents don't want their children to listen to "bad music". So mainstream music was forced to become softer over the years. However, underground music still has some hardcore musicians. Look at ICP and Twiztid. I advise you to listen to their songs on youtube.

Black Francis · 04-06-2014, 10:51 AM

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Originally Posted by RL Clown

Music has become softer, generally speaking... Back in the 90's, Eminem challenged many people. He lived up to his image; he wasn't afraid of the media. He didn't give a f**k what other people thought. But when I look at today's musicians, nobody wants to push the boundaries. Maybe it's because parents worry too much about their children... Parents don't want their children to listen to "bad music". So mainstream music was forced to become softer over the years. However, underground music still has some hardcore musicians. Look at ICP and Twiztid. I advise you to listen to their songs on youtube.

i don't think so, controversy is part of the system now and even parents have come to accept that.

especially parents who were hippies in the 60's they are liberal as f*ck, i used to get high with my friend and his mom and it was weird as hell, i didn't know those kinda parents existed and this was way in the 90's man, parents nowadays are not so out of the loop anymore.

The Batlord · 04-07-2014, 10:46 AM

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Originally Posted by RL Clown

Music has become softer, generally speaking... Back in the 90's, Eminem challenged many people. He lived up to his image; he wasn't afraid of the media. He didn't give a f**k what other people thought. But when I look at today's musicians, nobody wants to push the boundaries. Maybe it's because parents worry too much about their children... Parents don't want their children to listen to "bad music". So mainstream music was forced to become softer over the years. However, underground music still has some hardcore musicians. Look at ICP and Twiztid. I advise you to listen to their songs on youtube.

Truly challenging modern concepts.

Black Shadow · 04-07-2014, 10:50 AM

Not all music is about challenging people and social norms. Back in the day, a way to get your music "out there" would be by challenging things like that. Nowadays society is desensitized and there are plenty of other methods of getting your music out there.

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Black Shadow Groupie Join Date: Apr 2014 Posts: 21	Not all music is about challenging people and social norms. Back in the day, a way to get your music "out there" would be by challenging things like that. Nowadays society is desensitized and there are plenty of other methods of getting your music out there.