Breaking News! Trollheart listens to jazz and....

YorkeDaddy · 03-13-2014, 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Trollheart

No I love orchestral music. I think it's probably all the brass in big band: I just don't like too much brass. And the fact that it's all linked with the forties and so on. I don't like the forties. Meh who knows? I just don't enjoy big band music, especially when they bloody start singing! Urgh!

Better watch out for Janszoon, he'll crucify you for saying something like that.

Trollheart · 03-13-2014, 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by YorkeDaddy

Better watch out for Janszoon, he'll crucify you for saying something like that.

Jansz is my man. We have an understanding...

YorkeDaddy · 03-13-2014, 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Trollheart

Jansz is my man. We have an understanding...

So he picks and chooses who he picks on in nearly identical scenarios?

Trollheart · 03-13-2014, 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by YorkeDaddy

So he picks and chooses who he picks on in nearly identical scenarios?

Jansz has never picked on me; quite the reverse. He's always helpful, cheerful and understanding. I don't know anyone here who has ever had a problem with him. Maybe it's just you?

YorkeDaddy · 03-13-2014, 04:14 PM

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Jansz has never picked on me; quite the reverse. He's always helpful, cheerful and understanding. I don't know anyone here who has ever had a problem with him. Maybe it's just you?

I'm just saying that I made a similar statement once and he publicly called me out on it on multiple occasions, while I assume you'll get away with it scot free. I guess that's just the social hierarchy here, aka it's acceptable for Trollheart to make sweeping generalizations about a time period/genre but not for anyone else.

**Janszoon** · 03-13-2014, 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by YorkeDaddy

I'm just saying that I made a similar statement once and he publicly called me out on it on multiple occasions, while I assume you'll get away with it scot free. I guess that's just the social hierarchy here, aka it's acceptable for Trollheart to make sweeping generalizations about a time period/genre but not for anyone else.

I tried to have a friendly conversation about music with you on two occasions, no "crucifixion" involved. I've had numerous similar conversations with Trollheart as well and he's perfectly happy talking about music.

Dark Horse · 03-14-2014, 11:11 PM

So, uh, back to jazz.

Wayne Shorter is probably my favorite saxophonist and definitely my favorite jazz composer. I highly recommend all of his classic blue note albums (As well as his most recent release, without a net)

I play guitar, so I'm obviously going to have some favorite jazz guitarists:

The album that this is off of certainly lives up to its name.

Spoiler for Great 60s Guitarists:

These three guys are the kings of Hard Bop guitar.

As some of you might now, Tyner was the pianist for the legendary coltrane quartet. I love his sweeping, heavily spiritual style. And yes, he can carry albums on his own.

Speaking of piano, Michel Camilo is a more modern pianist who is phenomenal at making his piano sound like an orchestra. Highly recommended.

Speaking of modern,

This is guy I recently discovered. Some pretty fantastic modern post-bop. I really need to check out his newest release.

Some great modern Third Stream. This album won a well-deserved grammy.

I'll cut myself off here.

**Scarlett O'Hara** · 03-14-2014, 11:32 PM

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Originally Posted by YorkeDaddy

I'm just saying that I made a similar statement once and he publicly called me out on it on multiple occasions, while I assume you'll get away with it scot free. I guess that's just the social hierarchy here, aka it's acceptable for Trollheart to make sweeping generalizations about a time period/genre but not for anyone else.

I've never seen Jans purposely picking on anyone.

Trollheart knows a lot about music, he doesn't have to like everything.

I think you just need to get to know people better and you will find that they are not out to get you.

Carpe Mortem · 03-14-2014, 11:40 PM

Bit of an underground gem for ya.... only underground because this soundtrack is the only ****in place I've ever heard of the dude. If anyone else can find more music by him, love to hear it.

Trollheart · 03-15-2014, 08:51 AM

The thing about jazz is that I didn't "get away scot free" --- everyone from Janzs to Engine sort of rolled their eyes and said how can you not like ANY jazz? I saw their point and began giving it a chance. But nobody slapped me down about it: everyone said things like "You should try this" or "Have you never listened to that?" It was all helpful in a manner intended to help me re-evaluate my tastes and see if I could get into it.

I'm quite sure that if I had said "No, I can't hack jazz no matter what" people would be surprised/disappointed but nobody would like call me an idiot or say I had no taste. They know the relatively wide variety (not wide compared to some but wider or as wide compared to others) of music I'm into and that it's not that I have a closed mind musically. Just some music does not do it for me. I've recently also hit up an emo album and it was okay but didn't change my mind about margarine, for those old or Irish enough to get that phrase. But I may give it more of a chance.

I honestly don't know what you said to Jansz but I suspect it may be how you say/said it, as sometimes you do come off a little abrasive and arrogant, which surprises me as our conversations have always been civil and enjoyable. I'm not that happy with your intimation that I get treated differently because I've been here longer: to some extent that is true; after all, you get to know people and how to relate to them after a while. Someone just joining might think Urban was a horrible person (he is)

or that butthead was an idiot on first contact, but as you get to know everyone you can see where they're coming from. So I get what you're saying but I do not believe I get treated specially or differently JUST BECAUSE I've been here a long time. I believe that happens because people know me, know what sort of person I am and how to relate to me.

03-14-2014, 11:11 PM	#27 (permalink)
Dark Horse Avant-Hard Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Philadelphia, PA Posts: 182	So, uh, back to jazz. Wayne Shorter is probably my favorite saxophonist and definitely my favorite jazz composer. I highly recommend all of his classic blue note albums (As well as his most recent release, without a net) I play guitar, so I'm obviously going to have some favorite jazz guitarists: The album that this is off of certainly lives up to its name. Spoiler for Great 60s Guitarists: These three guys are the kings of Hard Bop guitar. As some of you might now, Tyner was the pianist for the legendary coltrane quartet. I love his sweeping, heavily spiritual style. And yes, he can carry albums on his own. Speaking of piano, Michel Camilo is a more modern pianist who is phenomenal at making his piano sound like an orchestra. Highly recommended. Speaking of modern, This is guy I recently discovered. Some pretty fantastic modern post-bop. I really need to check out his newest release. Some great modern Third Stream. This album won a well-deserved grammy. I'll cut myself off here. Last edited by Dark Horse; 03-16-2014 at 02:11 PM.

03-15-2014, 08:51 AM	#30 (permalink)
Trollheart Born to be mild Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 404 Not Found Posts: 26,994	The thing about jazz is that I didn't "get away scot free" --- everyone from Janzs to Engine sort of rolled their eyes and said how can you not like ANY jazz? I saw their point and began giving it a chance. But nobody slapped me down about it: everyone said things like "You should try this" or "Have you never listened to that?" It was all helpful in a manner intended to help me re-evaluate my tastes and see if I could get into it. I'm quite sure that if I had said "No, I can't hack jazz no matter what" people would be surprised/disappointed but nobody would like call me an idiot or say I had no taste. They know the relatively wide variety (not wide compared to some but wider or as wide compared to others) of music I'm into and that it's not that I have a closed mind musically. Just some music does not do it for me. I've recently also hit up an emo album and it was okay but didn't change my mind about margarine, for those old or Irish enough to get that phrase. But I may give it more of a chance. I honestly don't know what you said to Jansz but I suspect it may be how you say/said it, as sometimes you do come off a little abrasive and arrogant, which surprises me as our conversations have always been civil and enjoyable. I'm not that happy with your intimation that I get treated differently because I've been here longer: to some extent that is true; after all, you get to know people and how to relate to them after a while. Someone just joining might think Urban was a horrible person (he is) or that butthead was an idiot on first contact, but as you get to know everyone you can see where they're coming from. So I get what you're saying but I do not believe I get treated specially or differently JUST BECAUSE I've been here a long time. I believe that happens because people know me, know what sort of person I am and how to relate to me. __________________ Trollheart: Signature-free since April 2018

03-14-2014, 11:40 PM	#29 (permalink)
Carpe Mortem Crusher of tiny Nords Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: Ugly Bag of Mostly Water Posts: 1,363	Bit of an underground gem for ya.... only underground because this soundtrack is the only ****in place I've ever heard of the dude. If anyone else can find more music by him, love to hear it.