The "get [insert forum member here] into [insert genre or subgenre here]" thread
 

Since a few people seem to have made it their mission to get me into jazz (not gonna happen!) thought it might be an idea to start this thread for anyone who wants to show anyone else how great a certain genre, subgenre, band or artiste is. Post your videos, comments, and why you think forum member A (I hate that guy!) --- or anyone --- should check that music out.

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Here's some jazz fusion for you, TH.

Well it's Devin so I'm honour-bound to give it a go. I'll let ya know! :thumb:

Good idea! Who shall we start with? :)

Why not go with someone you're already sort of familiar with

http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l9...turbulence.jpg

You're not even open minded to jazz? Too bad mate. What about classical?

My dear Trollheart, I know you enjoy bands like Camel and Caravan, so you probably like jazz-oriented fare more than you think...

Aren't you a Tom Waits fan? If so, you're definitely not hopeless on the jazz front.

Lets get Janszoon into the genre of The Beatles.

Please get into the GENRE of Kanda Bongo Man

He is a king of SOUKOUS MUSIC. He is a genius. You will love his music.

BILLLLLLLLLIIIIIIIIIIIIIII

BILI

Kanda Bongo Man - Bili ft Nene Tchakou (Soukous Music) - YouTube

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How does a prog rock nut NOT like jazz?

That's ambitious. This is Trollheart we're talking about, right? If you're going to throw him a jazz saxophonist at least take into consideration his love of cloying melody. Maybe this?

Wait, whats the problem with Jazz? All Jazz? How you cast a net that wide I have no idea. All Jazz? ...it boggles the mind.

Has everybody forgotten who we're talking about?

Lots of replies to get through here. Flattered guys but don't just make the thread about me: anyone else you want to get into any other genre/subgenre? No? Thought not. Guess we'll stick with me then. I'll explain to anyone who wants to what I don't like about the jazz I've heard later but for now, some of your postcards.
Zombie Kid writes:
Love classical. Some chamber music can be boring and of course like all genres I don't love everything about it or every composer, but I'm always up for a good classical tune. Favourites would be Mendelssohn, Grieg, Holst, Rachmaninoff, Mozart, Chopin, Debussy, Stravinsky, Strauss and a whole lot more...

Now let's take one from Anteater
Could very well be the case. I'm not saying I hate all jazz, cos that would be, well, stupid. But what I've heard in passing has not impressed me.

This is from Janszoon, who asks
Correct. I'm a huge Waits fan. Don't really see too much jazz in his music though: care to point it out? I know he's been linked with the genre but I've heard nearly everything from him and I see little if any jazz. Am I deaf? You'll surely say so. But let me know.

Don't forget: that phone line is open for requests and dedications! Let's go back to the postcards. Here's one from someone who calls themselves Forward to Death. Hmm.
Some of us don't. Some of the jazzier prog I also do not like.

And then we have Engine, who reminds us
Will be listened to in due course.
The Big3 is in a flap:
Have never heard any jazz I liked. It leaves me cold. I don't like anything I've heard about it. I'm not saying it's not good but I have never been in any way attracted to it. Too freeform maybe? Dunno. Just never did anything for these ears.

And let's take one more before we go. Oh! It's Engine again.

I think they all realise how hard this is going to be. Not to mention that I've a ton of other stuff to listen to before I get to any of this. I promise I will give it all a shot though and let you guys know.

Thanks kids! Keep em coming! You know our address. Till next week, same time, same station, keep well! :wave: :dj:

Oh, awesome. I play all that stuff on piano. Like Rachmaninov for example:

Seriously? I would say jazz is one of the dominant bits of his musical DNA. A lot of his songs are very jazzy or jazz-influenced, especially on the earlier albums. And basically all of the piano ballads he's recorded throughout his career are heavily jazz-influenced. Some of his songs, like this one, simply are straight up jazz tunes:




Here's another very jazzy one:




Even something like this owes a lot to experimental jazz:

OK, I can definitely see that in "Step right up" (which I love by the way) --- that big upright bass, the odd drumming, and I'm sure you're right. Maybe it's --- I don't know, maybe it's instrumental jazz I don't get? But no, I bloody hate Mel Torme too so it can't be that. Without question I'd never say I hate all jazz because what do I know of it, but anything I've heard I have not liked. I may just be destined never to like it or understand it.

To be honest, I had originally intended this year's "Stranger in a strange land" to focus on jazz, but it's such a huge and old genre I really don't know if I'd be taking on too much. Might be a way to face my fears, as it were, perhaps. Or maybe I'll just go with plan B and hide in this dark corner with Marillion blasting on my headphones?

See! You like at least one jazz song. :)

You probably hate Mel Torme because he's kind of boring. So forget about him as a good example of vocal jazz. What do you think of someone like Louis Armstrong, who was pretty clearly a direct influence on Tom Waits' vocal style?



I would love to see you do that (the reviewing jazz part, not the sitting in the corner listening to Marillion part). If you ever decide to do it, let me know if you want some recommendations.

Please just no more Marillion

That just reminds me of how much I love Ella's version of "Mack the Knife".



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For proggy jazz fusion, listen to birds of fire bybmahavishjun otchestra if you'ven't already. Also have a listen to john McLaughlin, al di meola, and paco de Lucia's Latin jazz work together, I'm sure that you will really appreciate the musicianship.

Shut up you, or no more coal for your burners! :laughing:

Heard that; sorry hated it. I am Jazz's Number One Hater, aren't I? ;)

Just outta curiosity bud, what are your thoughts on Steely Dan and their ilk? A lot of the Westcoast L.A. rock/pop I like has jazzy inclinations here and there, so I'm curious if any of that stuff appeals to you.

I only know a little Steely Dan --- the singles --- but I like what I've heard.

In other news, I've decided to go for it and change SiaSL for 2014 from Christian Contemporary (just have to hold that little delight over till next year I guess!) to Jazz.

I'd appreciate any help as I am, as you all know, clueless in this genre. Anyone who wants to research or provide me with information will be credited in the finished article if they so desire. I'll begin sketching out details around March and hope to launch the finished article sometime around maybe July, though all this is quite fluid and could go either way.

So, any tips? :shycouch:

Well, there are a lot of different subgenres of jazz. A LOT. Most of the recommendations you are going to get around here from the other members is harder, 50's-60's post-bop or experimental cool jazz stuff (Miles Davis, John Coltrane, Eric Dolphy, Art Blakey, etc.). If you want recommendations in jazz-fusion and contemporary jazz, I'm the guy to talk to. ;)

My suggestion would be to build a list of albums of different jazz genres from a combination of those that have gotten a lot of critical acclaim as well as recommendations from people you trust. You can review them over time in your journal and we'll all give ya feedback of course. :laughing:

I'm happy to help, but first do you have any response to my question about Louis Armstrong? :)

Let's all get Janszoon into Iron Maiden

Is that a genre?

Apparently The Beatles is

My joke was better.

Taking Dj from

to this might be damn near impossible..but I am gonna try...

I wasn't joking, though

I need to listen to all the recs and will then respond. What I know of Louis Armstrong, nothing really, is "Wonderful world", and who could not be moved by that song? I also know the song "Mack the knife" and love it, though I thought it was more Big Band than jazz? But hey, as we've seen, what do I know?

It should be.
TBH, the title should be "genre, subgenre or artiste", but I was afraid it wouldn't all fit. You can do specific artistes too.
I concur. Especially since there's already a thread about that.
Thanks for bringing someone else into the mix Roxy: I feel like the jazz mob are surrounding my castle with their smooth pitchforks and cool torches! :laughing: "One of us! One of us! One of us!".....

How do you feel about blues troll heart? I also suggest looking into al di meolas 'elegant gypsy'.

Big Band is a sub genre of Jazz.

I would describe big band as a subgenre of jazz (and Louis Armstrong, of course, is one of the biggest figures in all of jazz history). That's the thing with jazz, just like with rock, it's not really one thing. There are boatloads of subgenres and permutations of it. As one of dominant musical genres of the past hundred years, it has its fingers in a lot of pies.

lol. People are certainly welcome to try and get me into Iron Maiden if they want. I have nothing against the band, in fact I have nothing but respect for them for influencing a lot bands I love. They just have never clicked with me.