The "get [insert forum member here] into [insert genre or subgenre here]" thread

[Janszoon]

Originally Posted by Goofle11

Lets get Janszoon into the genre of The Beatles.

[Forward To Death]

How does a prog rock nut NOT like jazz?

[Goofle]

[Engine]

Originally Posted by Goofle11

That's ambitious. This is Trollheart we're talking about, right? If you're going to throw him a jazz saxophonist at least take into consideration his love of cloying melody. Maybe this?

[TheBig3]

Wait, whats the problem with Jazz? All Jazz? How you cast a net that wide I have no idea. All Jazz? ...it boggles the mind.

[Engine]

Originally Posted by TheBig3

Wait, whats the problem with Jazz? All Jazz? How you cast a net that wide I have no idea. All Jazz? ...it boggles the mind.

Has everybody forgotten who we're talking about?

[Trollheart]

Lots of replies to get through here. Flattered guys but don't just make the thread about me: anyone else you want to get into any other genre/subgenre? No? Thought not. Guess we'll stick with me then. I'll explain to anyone who wants to what I don't like about the jazz I've heard later but for now, some of your postcards.
Zombie Kid writes:

Originally Posted by zombie kid

You're not even open minded to jazz? Too bad mate. What about classical?

Love classical. Some chamber music can be boring and of course like all genres I don't love everything about it or every composer, but I'm always up for a good classical tune. Favourites would be Mendelssohn, Grieg, Holst, Rachmaninoff, Mozart, Chopin, Debussy, Stravinsky, Strauss and a whole lot more...

Now let's take one from Anteater

Originally Posted by Anteater

My dear Trollheart, I know you enjoy bands like Camel and Caravan, so you probably like jazz-oriented fare more than you think...

Could very well be the case. I'm not saying I hate all jazz, cos that would be, well, stupid. But what I've heard in passing has not impressed me.

This is from Janszoon, who asks

Originally Posted by Janszoon

Aren't you a Tom Waits fan? If so, you're definitely not hopeless on the jazz front.

Correct. I'm a huge Waits fan. Don't really see too much jazz in his music though: care to point it out? I know he's been linked with the genre but I've heard nearly everything from him and I see little if any jazz. Am I deaf? You'll surely say so. But let me know.

Don't forget: that phone line is open for requests and dedications! Let's go back to the postcards. Here's one from someone who calls themselves Forward to Death. Hmm.

Originally Posted by Forward To Death

How does a prog rock nut NOT like jazz?

Some of us don't. Some of the jazzier prog I also do not like.

And then we have Engine, who reminds us

Originally Posted by Engine

That's ambitious. This is Trollheart we're talking about, right? If you're going to throw him a jazz saxophonist at least take into consideration his love of cloying melody. Maybe this?

Will be listened to in due course.
The Big3 is in a flap:

Originally Posted by TheBig3

Wait, whats the problem with Jazz? All Jazz? How you cast a net that wide I have no idea. All Jazz? ...it boggles the mind.

Have never heard any jazz I liked. It leaves me cold. I don't like anything I've heard about it. I'm not saying it's not good but I have never been in any way attracted to it. Too freeform maybe? Dunno. Just never did anything for these ears.

And let's take one more before we go. Oh! It's Engine again.

Originally Posted by Engine

Has everybody forgotten who we're talking about?

I think they all realise how hard this is going to be. Not to mention that I've a ton of other stuff to listen to before I get to any of this. I promise I will give it all a shot though and let you guys know.

Thanks kids! Keep em coming! You know our address. Till next week, same time, same station, keep well!

[zombie kid]

Originally Posted by Trollheart

Love classical. Some chamber music can be boring and of course like all genres I don't love everything about it or every composer, but I'm always up for a good classical tune. Favourites would be Mendelssohn, Grieg, Holst, Rachmaninoff, Mozart, Chopin, Debussy, Stravinsky, Strauss and a whole lot more...

Oh, awesome. I play all that stuff on piano. Like Rachmaninov for example:

[Janszoon]

Originally Posted by Trollheart

Correct. I'm a huge Waits fan. Don't really see too much jazz in his music though: care to point it out? I know he's been linked with the genre but I've heard nearly everything from him and I see little if any jazz. Am I deaf? You'll surely say so. But let me know.

Seriously? I would say jazz is one of the dominant bits of his musical DNA. A lot of his songs are very jazzy or jazz-influenced, especially on the earlier albums. And basically all of the piano ballads he's recorded throughout his career are heavily jazz-influenced. Some of his songs, like this one, simply are straight up jazz tunes:




Here's another very jazzy one:




Even something like this owes a lot to experimental jazz:

[Trollheart]

OK, I can definitely see that in "Step right up" (which I love by the way) --- that big upright bass, the odd drumming, and I'm sure you're right. Maybe it's --- I don't know, maybe it's instrumental jazz I don't get? But no, I bloody hate Mel Torme too so it can't be that. Without question I'd never say I hate all jazz because what do I know of it, but anything I've heard I have not liked. I may just be destined never to like it or understand it.

To be honest, I had originally intended this year's "Stranger in a strange land" to focus on jazz, but it's such a huge and old genre I really don't know if I'd be taking on too much. Might be a way to face my fears, as it were, perhaps. Or maybe I'll just go with plan B and hide in this dark corner with Marillion blasting on my headphones?