Most Innovative Artist of the 20th Century

Necromancer · 01-21-2014, 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by dca

this is a good shout, probably was in a few ways. Zappa was a true maverick.

someone else who's name hasn't come up is Sun RA. he was on a different level

people arguing Michael Jackson is an innovator...is he? what did he innovate? remember things like dancing ability (he definitely didn't invent the moonwalk btw), songwriting skills, cultural mass appeal, record sales, and having a really great team of image stylists does not constitute 'innovation'... you could be in the top tier worldwide at all those things and still not be an innovator

We all know about Michael Jackson and his career and rating status, but Michael built his music around his bass line, in the same way so does Prince and Peter Gabriel for example, and I've always admired artist that build around the bass line of the song.

Sequoioideae · 01-21-2014, 03:16 PM

Silenzio · 01-22-2014, 09:23 AM

^I agree with you Sequoioideae, John Cage was - just like Stockhausen - laid the groundwork for the modern (electronic) music.
Although not many of you may know him, I'd like to add Hans-Martin Linde because he's an influencial recorder-virtuoso and composer of the 20th century.

Since we're living in a globalized world and in the society of pluralism it's hard to decide on the most innovative artists; just because there are so many musical genres.
I'm pretty sure though that the Beatles were simply as important as Michael Jackson for the pop-scene. That is just one genre out of estimated 1000 musical genres in the world.

**Frownland** · 01-22-2014, 09:27 AM

Very happy to see more john cage love in ybis thread. What compositions or albums of Linde would you recommend, silenzio?

Silenzio · 01-22-2014, 09:58 AM

For example, Linde's compositions "Neuzeitliche Übungsstücke" are standard pieces for modern recorder.
I'll have to play one out of that for my entrance exam.

Also the composition music for a bird for example is important.
The notation and technique is completely new and so it's a new way of playing and performing.
There are pieces where one artist has to play two recorders at the same time. Not as easy as it seems to be!

"Music for a Bird" - Hans Martin Linde - YouTube

bob. · 01-23-2014, 01:15 PM

i love it when you guys talk about the Beatles

the Beatles completely ripped of their harmony style from The Everly Brothers....not saying i don't like the Beatles...actually i love them....but give credit where credit is due

after much thought and having only one choice.....for me it would have to be....

Urban Hat€monger ? · 01-23-2014, 01:23 PM

^^

I approve

bob. · 01-23-2014, 01:26 PM

as any Doctor Who fan should

Urban Hat€monger ? · 01-23-2014, 01:30 PM

Says it all really, Invents techno in the mid 60s & causally dismisses it.
What a woman.

bob. · 01-23-2014, 01:41 PM

that was awesome

thank you

01-22-2014, 09:27 AM	#54 (permalink)
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bob. Still sends his reguards. Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Trying to get out of the cat town.... Posts: 5,039	i love it when you guys talk about the Beatles the Beatles completely ripped of their harmony style from The Everly Brothers....not saying i don't like the Beatles...actually i love them....but give credit where credit is due after much thought and having only one choice.....for me it would have to be.... __________________ A kiss is the beginning of cannibalism. Reach out, pierce the fine fabric of the sheltering sky, take repose.

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01-23-2014, 01:26 PM	#58 (permalink)
bob. Still sends his reguards. Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Trying to get out of the cat town.... Posts: 5,039	as any Doctor Who fan should __________________ A kiss is the beginning of cannibalism. Reach out, pierce the fine fabric of the sheltering sky, take repose.

01-23-2014, 01:30 PM	#59 (permalink)
Urban Hat€monger ? The Sexual Intellectual Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Somewhere cooler than you Posts: 18,605	Says it all really, Invents techno in the mid 60s & causally dismisses it. What a woman. __________________ Urb's RYM Stuff Most people sell their soul to the devil, but the devil sells his soul to Nick Cave.

01-22-2014, 09:23 AM	#53 (permalink)
Silenzio Music Addict Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Austria Posts: 210	^I agree with you Sequoioideae, John Cage was - just like Stockhausen - laid the groundwork for the modern (electronic) music. Although not many of you may know him, I'd like to add Hans-Martin Linde because he's an influencial recorder-virtuoso and composer of the 20th century. Since we're living in a globalized world and in the society of pluralism it's hard to decide on the most innovative artists; just because there are so many musical genres. I'm pretty sure though that the Beatles were simply as important as Michael Jackson for the pop-scene. That is just one genre out of estimated 1000 musical genres in the world.

01-22-2014, 09:58 AM	#55 (permalink)
Silenzio Music Addict Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Austria Posts: 210	For example, Linde's compositions "Neuzeitliche Übungsstücke" are standard pieces for modern recorder. I'll have to play one out of that for my entrance exam. Also the composition music for a bird for example is important. The notation and technique is completely new and so it's a new way of playing and performing. There are pieces where one artist has to play two recorders at the same time. Not as easy as it seems to be! "Music for a Bird" - Hans Martin Linde - YouTube

01-23-2014, 01:41 PM	#60 (permalink)
bob. Still sends his reguards. Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Trying to get out of the cat town.... Posts: 5,039	that was awesome thank you __________________ A kiss is the beginning of cannibalism. Reach out, pierce the fine fabric of the sheltering sky, take repose.