My tastes in music - an essay on my esthetics of music

galt54 · 12-15-2013, 02:58 AM

MY TASTES IN MUSIC – THE WHAT AND THE WHY

My ambition is that this essay will explain not only what I like in music – but also why I like it.

To begin with: I am a Swedish male who was born in 1954.

This essay will first show the reader which specific pieces of music I like after which I will try to induce why I like those particular pieces (i.e. I will seek to answer the question: What do those pieces of music have in common?).

First of all – the only genres of music which I like are modern rock and pop. Mostly, I only like the popular music made during the 1960s, 1970s and 1980s. I have a hard time finding any music made before 1960 or after 1990 which I like.

What does this say about me? Well, consider the fact that I do not like prog music very much. The only prog albums I ever listen to are the Yes albums of the 1970s, King Crimson´s masterpiece debut album, Nursery Chryme and Foxtrot. Apparently I like relatively simple music. Complex music merely overwhelms me. I am not up to the task of taking in and enjoying complex music. And I am bored by virtually all classical music and jazz!

Now, let´s be more specific: Which pop and rock music do I like?

Here are my favorite artists/bands – in the order that I like them. One criterion for this list is that the artist/band must have made at least five good albums and also at least twenty songs which I really enjoy listening to.

1) Madonna
2) Pet Shop Boys
3) Blue Öyster Cult
4) The Beatles
5) The Queers
6) The Punkles
7) Blondie
8) The Rolling Stones

There are a whole slew of artists/bands that I also like but am too lazy to rank in any order (they come behind my eight favorites, of course). One criterion for this list is that the artists/bands must have made at least three good albums and ten songs which I really like:

The Jimi Hendrix Experience, The Cream, The Beach Boys, Steely Dan, Van Halen, Yes, The Police, Led Zeppelin, Deep Purple, Wishbone Ash, Alice Cooper, Frank Zappa, The Supremes, Abba, AC/DC, The Village People, David Bowie, Budgie, Slade.

Now some of my favorite songs by my eight favorite artists/bands:

Madonna: Where´s the Party, Into the Groove, Vogue, Holiday, Express Yourself, Hanky Panky, Rescue Me, Who´s That Girl, La Isla Bonita.

Pet Shop Boys: You Only Love Me When You´re Drunk, You Choose, Pandemonium, Red Letter Day, West End Girls, The Truck Driver and His Mate, Se A Vida E, Girls and Boys, Girls Don´t Cry.

Blue Öyster Cult: Hot Rails to Hell, The Red and the Black, Dominance and Submission, Blue Öyster Cult (the version on the Imaginos album), Flaming Telepaths, Astronomy, Tattoo Vampire, Transmaniacon MC, Cities on Flame with Rock and Roll.

The Beatles: Penny Lane, I Saw Her Standing There, I Feel Fine, Daytripper, Drive My Car, Sgt. Pepper´s Lonely Heart Club´s Band (reprise), Here Comes the Sun, Strawberry Fields, All You Need is Love, Lady Madonna, Back in the U.S.S.R., Only a Northern Song (plus many, many more).

The Queers: Kicked Out of the Webelos, Rambo Rat, F*ck the World, Punk Rock Girls, She´s a Cretin, I Only Drink Bud, Another Girl, Love Love Love, Tamara is a Punk.

The Punkles (they only did covers of Beatles songs – so these are my favorite covers of theirs): I´m Looking Through You, Lady Madonna, And Your Bird Can Sing, Drive My Car, While My Guitar Gently Weeps, Looking Through a Glass Onion, Get Back, All My Loving.

Blondie: In the Sun, 11:59, Dreaming, X Offender, Maria, Nothing is Real But the Girl, Atomic, Forgive and Forget, Island of Lost Souls, Call Me, One Way or Another, Pretty Baby.

The Rolling Stones: Ruby Tuesday, Paint it Black, Mother´s Little Helper, Satisfaction, The Last Time, Jumping Jack Flash, Brown Sugar, 19th Nervous Breakdown, Have You Seen Your Mother Baby etc., In Another Land, Citadel.

As you can see, my taste sprawls all over the place – within the confines of rock and pop. I see one common thread in this selection of songs most especially. I only like songs which have “strong” and distinct melodies. By strong, I mean that the melody leaps out at me. The melody is “in my face”. It is based on a great hook. I am “not amused” by subtle music.

Why do I only like simple tunes? Well, according to my esthetics, the only value which music has is: entertainment value. I only listen to music because it makes me feel good. Simple music enables me to relax and enjoy. I do not need to concentrate and to flex my gray cells in order to enjoy music with simple, obvious melodies.

Another pattern, which emerges from my list of favorite songs, is that I tend to prefer fast, lively, up-tempo songs over slow, quiet ones. This is probably due to my basic psychology. I am a cheerful, happy-go-lucky, chronically optimistic person. I am in love with life. Therefore I pursue values very actively. And my mental life is also active, both in respect to thoughts and emotions. Actually, ever since I went through a psychosis during my teenage years, my mind is hyper-active. So “it figures” that I feel most comfortable listening to music which also is a fortiori “lively”.

Why do I place such importance on good melodies? Why not focus on harmony or rhythm? The answer certainly lies in the philosopher Ayn Rand´s observation that the melody is the element of a piece of music which integrates it into a unified whole. The melody is the attribute of a song which makes it that particular song and no other. The melody gives the song its identity and its distinctive “personality”.

Listening to music takes up a major part of my waking hours. I take my iPod everywhere I go. It is my most cherished material possession, along with my PC. I listen to music on the subway, at work, when I am at home reading – all the time except when I am sleeping or when my wife objects.

I love variety in my music. I have amassed a collection of roughly six hundred cds, most of which I have purchased from CD Universe and Amazon during the past eight years. In addition, I have purchased and downloaded roughly 2,600 individual songs from iTunes. I have never downloaded any music illegally. It would be beneath my dignity to rip off either the musical artists or the record companies (big business firms have property rights too, you see).

I am immensely grateful to: the good ones among the popular musical artists, the record companies and Apple Inc. They have filled my life with extra enjoyment and happiness.

xLizardx · 12-16-2013, 05:22 AM

It's great that you've written this piece detailing the significance music has to you, and the reasons why - I'm sure that many people could agree on the importance of their iPods or MP3 players as cherished possessions - however, I have to be really pedantic and point out that the word is "aesthetics", not "esthetics". Obviously I appreciate that English is not your first language, and everything else is spot on, so please don't take this minor criticism in a negative light.

I think that there's much to be said for "simple, obvious melodies" - sometimes more obscure genres tend to neglect this aspect - the "hook" of the song - because they disregard it as being too commercial. I think that this is a mistake, as the hook is obviously the most memorable aspect of any piece of music.

On the other hand though, I would purport that it's entirely possible for music to be both melodically memorable, AND mentally stimulating: for instance, one can write articulate, eloquent lyrics that are also extremely catchy.

Personally, I like music to be "clever", AND enjoyable, because then it can be appreciated on two different levels.

Trollheart · 12-16-2013, 06:07 AM

With writing of this calibre, and interest like this, why not consider starting a journal in the Members Journals section?
TH

DriveYourCarDownToTheSea · 12-16-2013, 01:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by galt54

First of all – the only genres of music which I like are modern rock and pop. Mostly, I only like the popular music made during the 1960s, 1970s and 1980s. I have a hard time finding any music made before 1960 or after 1990 which I like.

[...]

1) Madonna
2) Pet Shop Boys
3) Blue Öyster Cult
4) The Beatles
5) The Queers
6) The Punkles
7) Blondie
8) The Rolling Stones

[...]

At the risk of mentioning this band perhaps a bit too often, have you checked out Tame Impala?

Taxman · 12-16-2013, 02:58 PM

It seems like you're like some apostle who is spreading the word. But nevermind, keep it going, let's hope they'll get more well-known than they are now cos they really deserve it.

DriveYourCarDownToTheSea · 12-16-2013, 05:49 PM

They seem like the perfect band to introduce to people who like 60's-70's rock/pop and complain "there's no good music out these days."

Unless, of course, you're like my younger sister who hates the sound of John Lennon's voice. I sent her a link to "Feels Like We Only Go Backwards" several days ago and she was like, "Ewww, that sounds WAAAAY too much like the Beatles." She can't stand the sound of Lennon's voice, lol!

EDIT: BTW, guess what I got my other two sisters for Christmas???

Norg · 12-16-2013, 07:34 PM

Born in Texas 1985 Male

and I like everything in terms of music

I don't know many young kids born in "97-01" so IDK what there taste in music is but im guessing or hoping its teh " Variety Generation" were they don't even care about owning music but they also pretty much like all types of music

u cee when I was a young kid and pre teen the internet was still just a baby around what "93" I didn't really start to get going till windows 95 and Flash

Taxman · 12-17-2013, 03:29 AM

So how anyone can hate John's voice

it was one of the most perfect voices in the rock music ever.

DriveYourCarDownToTheSea · 12-17-2013, 02:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Taxman

So how anyone can hate John's voice

it was one of the most perfect voices in the rock music ever.

Interestingly, I saw an interview with George Martin once where Martin said that Lennon told him he did not like the sound of his own voice and was always wanting to double-track it and do other stuff to make it sound better. To some extent it's a bit of a nasal and maybe whiny-sounding voice, although to me not annoyingly so. Still, I can see why some people, perhaps including Lennon himself, did not like it.

DriveYourCarDownToTheSea · 12-17-2013, 02:49 PM

Here, #2:
11 Things You May Not Know About John Lennon | Mental Floss

12-15-2013, 02:58 AM	#1 (permalink)
galt54 Music Addict Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: A suburb of Stockholm, Sweden. Posts: 191	My tastes in music - an essay on my esthetics of music MY TASTES IN MUSIC – THE WHAT AND THE WHY My ambition is that this essay will explain not only what I like in music – but also why I like it. To begin with: I am a Swedish male who was born in 1954. This essay will first show the reader which specific pieces of music I like after which I will try to induce why I like those particular pieces (i.e. I will seek to answer the question: What do those pieces of music have in common?). First of all – the only genres of music which I like are modern rock and pop. Mostly, I only like the popular music made during the 1960s, 1970s and 1980s. I have a hard time finding any music made before 1960 or after 1990 which I like. What does this say about me? Well, consider the fact that I do not like prog music very much. The only prog albums I ever listen to are the Yes albums of the 1970s, King Crimson´s masterpiece debut album, Nursery Chryme and Foxtrot. Apparently I like relatively simple music. Complex music merely overwhelms me. I am not up to the task of taking in and enjoying complex music. And I am bored by virtually all classical music and jazz! Now, let´s be more specific: Which pop and rock music do I like? Here are my favorite artists/bands – in the order that I like them. One criterion for this list is that the artist/band must have made at least five good albums and also at least twenty songs which I really enjoy listening to. 1) Madonna 2) Pet Shop Boys 3) Blue Öyster Cult 4) The Beatles 5) The Queers 6) The Punkles 7) Blondie 8) The Rolling Stones There are a whole slew of artists/bands that I also like but am too lazy to rank in any order (they come behind my eight favorites, of course). One criterion for this list is that the artists/bands must have made at least three good albums and ten songs which I really like: The Jimi Hendrix Experience, The Cream, The Beach Boys, Steely Dan, Van Halen, Yes, The Police, Led Zeppelin, Deep Purple, Wishbone Ash, Alice Cooper, Frank Zappa, The Supremes, Abba, AC/DC, The Village People, David Bowie, Budgie, Slade. Now some of my favorite songs by my eight favorite artists/bands: Madonna: Where´s the Party, Into the Groove, Vogue, Holiday, Express Yourself, Hanky Panky, Rescue Me, Who´s That Girl, La Isla Bonita. Pet Shop Boys: You Only Love Me When You´re Drunk, You Choose, Pandemonium, Red Letter Day, West End Girls, The Truck Driver and His Mate, Se A Vida E, Girls and Boys, Girls Don´t Cry. Blue Öyster Cult: Hot Rails to Hell, The Red and the Black, Dominance and Submission, Blue Öyster Cult (the version on the Imaginos album), Flaming Telepaths, Astronomy, Tattoo Vampire, Transmaniacon MC, Cities on Flame with Rock and Roll. The Beatles: Penny Lane, I Saw Her Standing There, I Feel Fine, Daytripper, Drive My Car, Sgt. Pepper´s Lonely Heart Club´s Band (reprise), Here Comes the Sun, Strawberry Fields, All You Need is Love, Lady Madonna, Back in the U.S.S.R., Only a Northern Song (plus many, many more). The Queers: Kicked Out of the Webelos, Rambo Rat, Fck the World, Punk Rock Girls, She´s a Cretin, I Only Drink Bud, Another Girl, Love Love Love, Tamara is a Punk. The Punkles (they only did covers of Beatles songs – so these are my favorite covers of theirs): I´m Looking Through You, Lady Madonna, And Your Bird Can Sing, Drive My Car, While My Guitar Gently Weeps, Looking Through a Glass Onion, Get Back, All My Loving. Blondie: In the Sun, 11:59, Dreaming, X Offender, Maria, Nothing is Real But the Girl, Atomic, Forgive and Forget, Island of Lost Souls, Call Me, One Way or Another, Pretty Baby. The Rolling Stones: Ruby Tuesday, Paint it Black, Mother´s Little Helper, Satisfaction, The Last Time, Jumping Jack Flash, Brown Sugar, 19th Nervous Breakdown, Have You Seen Your Mother Baby etc., In Another Land, Citadel. As you can see, my taste sprawls all over the place – within the confines of rock and pop. I see one common thread in this selection of songs most especially. I only like songs which have “strong” and distinct melodies. By strong, I mean that the melody leaps out at me. The melody is “in my face”. It is based on a great hook. I am “not amused” by subtle music. Why do I only like simple tunes? Well, according to my esthetics, the only value which music has is: entertainment value. I only listen to music because it makes me feel good. Simple music enables me to relax and enjoy. I do not need to concentrate and to flex my gray cells in order to enjoy music with simple, obvious melodies. Another pattern, which emerges from my list of favorite songs, is that I tend to prefer fast, lively, up-tempo songs over slow, quiet ones. This is probably due to my basic psychology. I am a cheerful, happy-go-lucky, chronically optimistic person. I am in love with life. Therefore I pursue values very actively. And my mental life is also active, both in respect to thoughts and emotions. Actually, ever since I went through a psychosis during my teenage years, my mind is hyper-active. So “it figures” that I feel most comfortable listening to music which also is a fortiori “lively”. Why do I place such importance on good melodies? Why not focus on harmony or rhythm? The answer certainly lies in the philosopher Ayn Rand´s observation that the melody is the element of a piece of music which integrates it into a unified whole. The melody is the attribute of a song which makes it that particular song and no other. The melody gives the song its identity and its distinctive “personality”. Listening to music takes up a major part of my waking hours. I take my iPod everywhere I go. It is my most cherished material possession, along with my PC. I listen to music on the subway, at work, when I am at home reading – all the time except when I am sleeping or when my wife objects. I love variety in my music. I have amassed a collection of roughly six hundred cds, most of which I have purchased from CD Universe and Amazon during the past eight years. In addition, I have purchased and downloaded roughly 2,600 individual songs from iTunes. I have never downloaded any music illegally. It would be beneath my dignity to rip off either the musical artists or the record companies (big business firms have property rights too, you see). I am immensely grateful to: the good ones among the popular musical artists, the record companies and Apple Inc. They have filled my life with extra enjoyment and happiness. Last edited by galt54; 12-20-2013 at 08:58 PM.*

12-16-2013, 06:07 AM	#3 (permalink)
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12-16-2013, 05:49 PM	#6 (permalink)
DriveYourCarDownToTheSea AllTheWhileYouChargeAFee Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Kansas City Posts: 1,178	They seem like the perfect band to introduce to people who like 60's-70's rock/pop and complain "there's no good music out these days." Unless, of course, you're like my younger sister who hates the sound of John Lennon's voice. I sent her a link to "Feels Like We Only Go Backwards" several days ago and she was like, "Ewww, that sounds WAAAAY too much like the Beatles." She can't stand the sound of Lennon's voice, lol! EDIT: BTW, guess what I got my other two sisters for Christmas??? __________________ Stop and find a pretty shell for her Beach Boys vs Beatles comparisons begin here Last edited by DriveYourCarDownToTheSea; 12-16-2013 at 06:07 PM.

12-17-2013, 02:49 PM	#10 (permalink)
DriveYourCarDownToTheSea AllTheWhileYouChargeAFee Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Kansas City Posts: 1,178	Here, #2: 11 Things You May Not Know About John Lennon \| Mental Floss __________________ Stop and find a pretty shell for her Beach Boys vs Beatles comparisons begin here

12-16-2013, 05:22 AM	#2 (permalink)
xLizardx Music Addict Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: UK Posts: 71	It's great that you've written this piece detailing the significance music has to you, and the reasons why - I'm sure that many people could agree on the importance of their iPods or MP3 players as cherished possessions - however, I have to be really pedantic and point out that the word is "aesthetics", not "esthetics". Obviously I appreciate that English is not your first language, and everything else is spot on, so please don't take this minor criticism in a negative light. I think that there's much to be said for "simple, obvious melodies" - sometimes more obscure genres tend to neglect this aspect - the "hook" of the song - because they disregard it as being too commercial. I think that this is a mistake, as the hook is obviously the most memorable aspect of any piece of music. On the other hand though, I would purport that it's entirely possible for music to be both melodically memorable, AND mentally stimulating: for instance, one can write articulate, eloquent lyrics that are also extremely catchy. Personally, I like music to be "clever", AND enjoyable, because then it can be appreciated on two different levels.

12-16-2013, 02:58 PM	#5 (permalink)
Taxman watching the wheels Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Finland Posts: 470	It seems like you're like some apostle who is spreading the word. But nevermind, keep it going, let's hope they'll get more well-known than they are now cos they really deserve it.

12-16-2013, 07:34 PM	#7 (permalink)
Norg Music Addict Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 2,358	Born in Texas 1985 Male and I like everything in terms of music I don't know many young kids born in "97-01" so IDK what there taste in music is but im guessing or hoping its teh " Variety Generation" were they don't even care about owning music but they also pretty much like all types of music u cee when I was a young kid and pre teen the internet was still just a baby around what "93" I didn't really start to get going till windows 95 and Flash

12-17-2013, 03:29 AM	#8 (permalink)
Taxman watching the wheels Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Finland Posts: 470	So how anyone can hate John's voice it was one of the most perfect voices in the rock music ever.