The Smiths ‘The Queen Is Dead’ Named Greatest Album by NME

The Batlord · 11-13-2013, 04:50 PM

Definitely Maybe better than Parklife?

Gavin B. · 11-13-2013, 05:17 PM

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NME’s top 25 Greatest Albums of All Time

1. The Smiths – The Queen Is Dead
2. The Beatles – Revolver
3. David Bowie – Hunky Dory
4. The Strokes – Is This It
5. The Velvet Underground & Nico – The Velvet Underground
6. Pulp – Different Class
7. The Stone Roses – The Stone Roses
8. Pixies – Doolittle
9. The Beatles – The Beatles (White Album)
10. Oasis – Definitely Maybe
11. Nirvana – Nevermind
12. Patti Smith – Horses
13. Arcade Fire – Funeral
14. David Bowie – Low
15. PJ Harvey – Let England Shake
16. Joy Division – Closer
17. Public Enemy – It Takes a Nation of Millions to Hold Us Back
18. My Bloody Valentine – Loveless
19. Arctic Monkeys – Whatever People Say I Am, That’s What I’m Not
20. Radiohead – OK Computer
21. Kanye West – My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy
22. Blur – Parklife
23. David Bowie – The Rise and Fall of Ziggy Stardust and the Spiders from Mars
24. The Rolling Stones – Exile on Main St
25. Marvin Gaye – What’s Going On

What do you think of this list? A bit risky The Smiths in the first place?

I'm not very surprised by any of the NME selections, including the Smiths. If you're an avid reader of NME the top 25 albums are precisely the sort of glam rock, Brit rock and indie rock that NME has passionately advocated for the past four decades. I am surprised that none of the Roxy Music albums made the list. Roxy really revolutionized British rock and spawned legions of imitators and followers.

The selections Marvin Gaye, Kanye West and Public Enemy were mild surprises for me. But not really... It seems that every alternative rock critic includes a few token hip-hip and/or soul artists on his favorite lists.

I'm also surprised that NME didn't select Kala by M.I.A. who is the most notable rapper to ever come from the U.K.

~~Sansa Stark~~ · 11-13-2013, 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Goofle11

Such a Smipster.

Only always.

Screen13 · 11-13-2013, 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord

Definitely Maybe better than Parklife?

Even in this kind of trivial context, I agree with this in a way. Still, I also agree Different Class >>> the albums by Blur and Oasis.

Different Class >> Parklife >> Defiantly Maybe.

Rjinn · 11-14-2013, 05:25 PM

The Queen Is Dead at No. 1? Yawn. The Smiths at No. 1? More yawn.

Screen13 · 11-15-2013, 07:45 AM

I just caught a full 500 list...The Jam only having Sound Effects in the lower 400's? (All Mod Cons at #219...are you sure they did not mix the numbers?) !!! Lou Reed's Berlin way down the list - #498?

Just goes to show, too many era, too many great albums, and all the other yadda yadda I can whip up in a post leads to a messed up list. They mean nothing although if you're in, they at least provide some kind of marketing tool, the ONLY good these lists would ever do now.

BTW, on the line of Soul artists a couple of posts before, after the 25, Stevie Wonder was next with the influential Innervisions at...#42.

Some notes...

Hatful was #100.
Bowie's Station to Station was #53
Lou's Transformer was #72
Iggy and The Stooges' Raw Power was only #80
Blur's Modern Life Is Rubbish was #33
James Brown's classic Live At the Apollo was only #125?!!!
Hendrix's Are You Experienced #144
J&MC's Psychocandy at #157
Zeppelin 3 at #173...I'm still looking for a mention of 4 or Physical Graffiti. Let alone more Metal or Classic Heavy Rock...no Sabbath I think.
Iggy's Lust For Life at #217...kind of surprising as the title track help define England's Late 90's via Trainspotting.
Bowie's Heroes way down at #329?!!!...VERY surprising as it has the killer title song.
Plus...mentions of the first 2 MC5 albums but not the slam dunk classic High Time?!!! (as far as what I read so far) True, I can understand Kick Out the Jam's influence, but as much as I love Back in The USA, High Time is of far more importance in my opinion.
Charles Mingus' Mingus Ah Um at #303

Hardly any mentions of Chess or 50's legends, either. I'm done with this topic for now!

Screen13 · 11-15-2013, 07:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Gavin B.

I'm not very surprised by any of the NME selections, including the Smiths. If you're an avid reader of NME the top 25 albums are precisely the sort of glam rock, Brit rock and indie rock that NME has passionately advocated for the past four decades. I am surprised that none of the Roxy Music albums made the list. Roxy really revolutionized British rock and spawned legions of imitators and followers.

The selections Marvin Gaye, Kanye West and Public Enemy were mild surprises for me. But not really... It seems that every alternative rock critic includes a few token hip-hip and/or soul artists on his favorite lists.

I'm also surprised that NME didn't select Kala by M.I.A. who is the most notable rapper to ever come from the U.K.

As there's a mention of Roxy, I will mention something. On the Full 500 list - For Your Pleasure at #88.

The Batlord · 11-15-2013, 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Screen13

Zeppelin 3 at #173...I'm still looking for a mention of 4 or Physical Graffiti. Let alone more Metal or Classic Heavy Rock...no Sabbath I think.

From what I've seen a lot of old school, snooty alt rock types seem to have only contempt for metal in general, as if they didn't probably start out listening to ****ty punk rock no better than Exodus or Cannibal Corpse when they were kids.

~~Sansa Stark~~ · 11-15-2013, 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by The Batlord

From what I've seen a lot of old school, snooty alt rock types seem to have only contempt for metal in general, as if they didn't probably start out listening to ****ty punk rock no better than Exodus or Cannibal Corpse when they were kids.

I did, bye

**** metal

The Batlord · 11-15-2013, 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Sansa Stark

I did, bye

**** metal

I love me some punk too, but anybody who digs Black Flag has no business feeling superior to anyone who likes Slayer.

11-14-2013, 05:25 PM	#35 (permalink)
Rjinn The Aerosol in your Soul Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: New South Wales, Australia Posts: 1,546	The Queen Is Dead at No. 1? Yawn. The Smiths at No. 1? More yawn. __________________ last.fm

11-15-2013, 07:45 AM	#36 (permalink)
Screen13 Music Addict Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 1,388	I just caught a full 500 list...The Jam only having Sound Effects in the lower 400's? (All Mod Cons at #219...are you sure they did not mix the numbers?) !!! Lou Reed's Berlin way down the list - #498? Just goes to show, too many era, too many great albums, and all the other yadda yadda I can whip up in a post leads to a messed up list. They mean nothing although if you're in, they at least provide some kind of marketing tool, the ONLY good these lists would ever do now. BTW, on the line of Soul artists a couple of posts before, after the 25, Stevie Wonder was next with the influential Innervisions at...#42. Some notes... Hatful was #100. Bowie's Station to Station was #53 Lou's Transformer was #72 Iggy and The Stooges' Raw Power was only #80 Blur's Modern Life Is Rubbish was #33 James Brown's classic Live At the Apollo was only #125?!!! Hendrix's Are You Experienced #144 J&MC's Psychocandy at #157 Zeppelin 3 at #173...I'm still looking for a mention of 4 or Physical Graffiti. Let alone more Metal or Classic Heavy Rock...no Sabbath I think. Iggy's Lust For Life at #217...kind of surprising as the title track help define England's Late 90's via Trainspotting. Bowie's Heroes way down at #329?!!!...VERY surprising as it has the killer title song. Plus...mentions of the first 2 MC5 albums but not the slam dunk classic High Time?!!! (as far as what I read so far) True, I can understand Kick Out the Jam's influence, but as much as I love Back in The USA, High Time is of far more importance in my opinion. Charles Mingus' Mingus Ah Um at #303 Hardly any mentions of Chess or 50's legends, either. I'm done with this topic for now! Last edited by Screen13; 11-15-2013 at 07:58 AM.