The Smiths ‘The Queen Is Dead’ Named Greatest Album by NME

14232949 · 11-13-2013, 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon

It always cracks me up how these magazines put out these ridiculously rock-centric lists but then toss in a smattering of hip hop and R&B to not appear as myopic as they clearly are. They should have just been honest about it and made a best rock albums list.

That defines Marvin Gaye's legacy. Being the token black guy on the white band list. Got to love diversity.

On another note, this list is a hell of a lot better than most 'Best of' lists I've seen. No list is ever going to match any one persons personal liking 100% so there's no point in complaining about these things. At least it wasn't swamped with 5 albums a piece by the Beatles and Dylan

Isbjørn · 11-13-2013, 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by FRED HALE SR.

I prefer it that way. I wore those songs out honestly. You have better taste then Briks, i'll give you that.

Whatdidyoujustsaywaswrongwithmytaste?

FRED HALE SR. · 11-13-2013, 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Briks

Whatdidyoujustsaywaswrongwithmytaste?

Its just The Smiths. Its all been done.

Isbjørn · 11-13-2013, 10:44 AM

Oh. I'm relatively new to them, and haven't heard it all, so...

FRED HALE SR. · 11-13-2013, 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Briks

Oh. I'm relatively new to them, and haven't heard it all, so...

Was a minor joke is all. The Queen is Dead is a fine album.

Screen13 · 11-13-2013, 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Good Guy

No love for Hatful of Hollow? Ok then..

Despite the mega love by many for Louder Than Bombs, all seriously justly deserved for being a double serving of Smiths greatness, I will have to say that it's all about the time and place for me so I will give a huge shout out to Hatful of Hallow. For me, that was the collection I got before Louder Than Bombs got the attention and the Smiths album I will value forever more than the others. Getting it on a School Trip as an import just shortly after it's release along with Japan's Gentlemen Take Polaroids, it seriously paved another way for my music listening. Despite the debut being great, Hatful was more intimate sounding through the radio session tracks and it's choice of singles sides, although I did not know where they came from at the time, were of a top caliber.

(There's a bit of a high horse ride for me being the first in my small dot, US community that caught "How Soon Is Now" before the local New Wave fan caught it...OK ride's finished, back to the reality.)

Screen13 · 11-13-2013, 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Mankycaaant

That defines Marvin Gaye's legacy. Being the token black guy on the white band list. Got to love diversity.

Their Top 25 List also included Public Enemy, which is kind of a reminder of their Late 80's support of Rap and House. Maybe he's got some company now along with Kayne West.

I still know what you mean, and it's ALWAYS with the same album, as if Marvin's history is not with any other great albums beyond that and a Greatest Hits.

The cream of this list reads like the token albums you have to hear according to a few people, and while many of them are classics, it's one of those lists that's narrow not by choice anymore, but by room. There has been so much time and too many eras, trends, genres, classic albums of all kinds for a serious one-stop listing of the greats, and I have a feeling that the OP was only 25 out of longer list (I think Psychocandy was somewhere in the 150's, if I'm thinking of the right list). There's the token Holy Trinity of Britpop, the token must mention Post-Punk legends (Joy Division, check; One Bowie from the Late 70's, double check), the has to be there mention of the two class Beatles albums that are not Sgt. Pepper, MBV (of course!), The Stones' Exile, VU and Nico (Check, Double Check, Triple Check!), and so on. It's as if they compiled their favorite Documentaries or histories they read about hundreds of times and just listed the albums and then mentioned What's Going On for good measure. Maybe for modern listeners, these are good pointers to what happened before, but still it's more for the Rock/Indie crowd than other kinds of music listeners. There are those like me who took their tastes to other places not explored by the major publications that will never get touched by these lists - It's nice see a lot a mentions of some reasonably good albums, but there's a world out there to be explored, and there always will be.

Still FAR better than Rolling Stone's lists, though.

Really, in my opinion the Top 25 list is pretty good, many albums I can cozy up to, but not the all time list. Music History should not be comfortable.

The Queen Is Dead at #1? Seems right for now, though. It's iconic for it's time and a very sharp British album in my opinion. Possibly the best original (non-compilation) Smiths album, although it's a tough choice between that and their S/T.

Ninetales · 11-13-2013, 02:51 PM

These lists always make me wonder if music actually exists outside of the US and UK.

~~Cuthbert~~ · 11-13-2013, 03:29 PM

Shite list, based purely on fucking I saw you coming shite, written by people trying to be 'intelligent'. The sort of cunt who 'needs a Costa', wants to live in London, drinks at a wine bar and owns a fucking prius. Skinny jeans wearing wankers.

But they do this to get people pissed off and talking about their wank magazine. Been done a million times.

Top 20 being made up almost entirely of white cunts with guitars

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No Black Sabbath

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A Kanye West album in the top 20 albums of all time ffs. My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy is not even one of the 20 best hip hop albums of all time.

Come at me.

**Goofle** · 11-13-2013, 04:10 PM

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They're wrong though

s/t >>>>>> Meat Is Murder >>>> The Queen is Dead

Such a Smipster.

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~~Cuthbert~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: The Black Country Posts: 8,827	Shite list, based purely on fucking I saw you coming shite, written by people trying to be 'intelligent'. The sort of cunt who 'needs a Costa', wants to live in London, drinks at a wine bar and owns a fucking prius. Skinny jeans wearing wankers. But they do this to get people pissed off and talking about their wank magazine. Been done a million times. Top 20 being made up almost entirely of white cunts with guitars . No Black Sabbath . A Kanye West album in the top 20 albums of all time ffs. My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy is not even one of the 20 best hip hop albums of all time. Come at me.