What makes a tune in tune?

Mr. Charlie · 11-07-2013, 09:34 AM

That's wind hitting telegraph lines? Hah, I'm gonna start sitting under telegraph lines on windy days. Sounds good.

djchameleon · 11-07-2013, 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Ninetales

Also hmm another question, directed to anyone. Is 4'33" music?

lol is that the track that is just silence?

Plankton · 11-07-2013, 09:53 AM

If your of the Zen philosophy then yes, 4'33" is music. Otherwise it's just 6'-9" laterally.

Ninetales · 11-07-2013, 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by djchameleon

lol is that the track that is just silence?

Yeah. It's supposed to be really emotional when witnessed live. It's like soaking in the affects of what was previously heard as well as the sounds you hear during.

**Frownland** · 11-07-2013, 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Ninetales

I only ask because it's just wind hitting telegraph wires. Alan Lamb set it up but didnt know what the final result was going to be.

(I do agree though; it's music)

Also hmm another question, directed to anyone. Is 4'33" music?

4'33" is definitely music, although I respect it on a more conceptual basis than a listening one. However, listening to it on noise cancelling headphones defeats the purpose

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Originally Posted by djchameleon

lol is that the track that is just silence?

Well, the musicians are silent, but your environment (generally an orchestra hall, very echoey and full of spectators) does not, and that is the focus of the piece. I prefer Music of Changes to 4'33" because it uses silence well but does not let it overtake the whole piece.

Burning Down · 11-07-2013, 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Ninetales

Also hmm another question, directed to anyone. Is 4'33" music?

Absolutely. It's about the sounds around you, those are the focus of the piece. The piece is different every time it is performed, which is what Cage was going for. That's the simple explanation.

Rjinn · 11-07-2013, 06:28 PM

lol John Cage is such a tool.

But yeah, he believed everything we hear is music, and made a silent track so we could listen to what's around us. It's certainly a kind of genius.

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Mr. Charlie Shoo Thoughts Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: These Mountains Posts: 2,308	That's wind hitting telegraph lines? Hah, I'm gonna start sitting under telegraph lines on windy days. Sounds good.