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Gavin B. 10-21-2013 07:21 PM

Nirvana, the Replacements, N.W.A., Chic, Peter Gabriel Nominated for Rock and Roll Ha
 
From Pitchfork:
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The 2014 class of nominees for the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame have been announced via Rolling Stone, and at long last, Nirvana are eligible for the honor. They've been longlisted along with the Replacements, N.W.A., Chic, Peter Gabriel, Kiss, LL Cool J, the Zombies, Cat Stevens, Hall and Oates, Paul Butterfield Blues Band, Deep Purple, Link Wray, the Meters, Linda Ronstadt, and Yes.
In order to be eligible for induction, artists need to have released their first single or album 25 years ago. Nirvana are the only artist in the group of nominees that are in their first year of eligibility—their cover of Shocking Blue's "Love Buzz" came out in 1988.
It's going to get interesting over the next few years as many of the grunge, Brit rock and electronica bands meet the 25 year eligibility requirement for induction.

I was shocked that Linda Ronstandt was never nominated as she was the best selling female vocalist of the 70s.

I'm personally hoping that two of the underdog bands, the Replacements and the Paul Butterfield Blues Band will finally be acknowledged by the R&R Hall of Fame.

Psy-Fi 10-21-2013 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Gavin B. (Post 1375964)
From Pitchfork:

It's going to get interesting over the next few years as many of the grunge, Brit rock and electronica bands meet the 25 year eligibility requirement for induction.

I was shocked that Linda Ronstandt was never nominated as she was the best selling female vocalist of the 70s.

I'm personally hoping that two of the underdog bands, the Replacements and the Paul Butterfield Blues Band will finally be acknowledged by the R&R Hall of Fame.

Linda's been nominated. You can cast a vote to get her inducted here...

Online Fan Poll | The Rock and Roll Hall of Fame and Museum

Vote early and vote often!

Janszoon 10-21-2013 07:39 PM

I always think it's weird that they induct bands that aren't rock into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.

Norg 10-21-2013 07:40 PM

dis a joke ...???? LOL


why are rappers in the ROck n roll hall of fame not knocking them but why ..????

Psy-Fi 10-21-2013 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon (Post 1375980)
I always think it's weird that they induct bands that aren't rock into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.

Yeah, they should probably change the name to "The Popular Music Hall of Fame" at this point.
And I think it's ridiculous that Link Wray isn't already in the RNRHOF, considering his enormous influence on rock music since the beginning.
He should have been one of the first people inducted during the first ceremony (IMO.)

Gavin B. 10-22-2013 03:13 AM

I have mixed feelings about rappers being inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. Hip hop really doesn't have anything to do with rock music. I agree with Psy-Fi that it should really be called the Popular Music Hall of Fame.

I also agree that Link Wray should have been inducted a long time ago but most people don't know his influence on rock and roll. It didn't help that Link moved to Denmark and had a fairly erratic recording career for the last 30 years of his life.

Rjinn 10-22-2013 03:37 AM

I'm surprised Kiss haven't gotten in earlier. They're one of the most well known hard rock bands down the years, not to mention all the awards they've won and the amount of album releases. I know a big part of the band are about the light shows, face-painting and band shirts... but they fit the criteria of rock' n' roll hall of fame and how they go about inducting bands, or what one might say.

The Batlord 10-22-2013 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon (Post 1375980)
I always think it's weird that they induct bands that aren't rock into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.

My guess is they're just trying to stay current in a misguided notion that anyone will care.

Gavin B. 10-22-2013 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Rjinn (Post 1376069)
I'm surprised Kiss haven't gotten in earlier. They're one of the most well known hard rock bands down the years, not to mention all the awards they've won and the amount of album releases. I know a big part of the band are about the light shows, face-painting and band shirts... but they fit the criteria of rock' n' roll hall of fame and how they go about inducting bands, or what one might say.

Personally I wouldn't vote for any band that build it's musical reputation on the quality of their face painting. When Kiss first came out they primarily appealed to 12-15 year kids as a teeny-bopper version of glam rock bands like the New York Dolls and Alice Cooper. From my perspective, Kiss has always been a bit of a novelty band joke by four mediocre musicians to make a bundle of money.

Soulflower 10-22-2013 01:03 PM

At first I thought the hall was dedicated to artists who aided in the "progression of rock music". You don't necessarily have to be a rock musician or artist to do that. There are alot of non rock artists who have made a significant impact on rock in roll. However, over the years the RHOF have nominated and inducted artists who havent even done that. So with keeping that in mind, I think they should just change the title of the hall to "Popular music hall" etc

I personally dont take it as seriously anymore because there are alot of artists who have been snubbed that really deserve to be in it. There are artists who have been inducted before more deserving artists. It took Donna Summer's passing for them to finally induct her! She was nominated at least 5 times until her ultimate passing where they finally inducted her. Whitney Houston should have been inducted. WAR should have been inducted. Chic should have been inducted. The Hall snubs alot of African American legendary artists. They inducted Beastie Boys before WAR two years ago, that was insulting. I also dont like the way artists are nominated. Its based off the opinion of one man (the person who created the hall) if he doesn't like you, your not getting in.

I think LL and NWA deserve to be in it. However, I dont think they should get in before alot of other artists who have been snubbed that should already be in it. For crying out loud, they havent even inducted The Carpenters, thats bs...

Nirvana deserves it too....but technically there are artists that should be inducted before them but more than likely they will get inducted this year.

Chic should ALREADY be in it... why are they not in it?

butthead aka 216 10-22-2013 01:05 PM

serious question, is the rock and roll hall of fame viewed as like a serious achievement or just kinda an award show type thing where they roll out the red carpet and go thru the motions but it really doesn mean much (like the espy awards in sports for those fmailiar). like do you think bands are bitter because they arent in or is it not really that big of a deal????

Jopatate 10-22-2013 09:30 PM

Deep purple

Rjinn 10-22-2013 11:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Gavin B. (Post 1376266)
Personally I wouldn't vote for any band that build it's musical reputation on the quality of their face painting. When Kiss first came out they primarily appealed to 12-15 year kids as a teeny-bopper version of glam rock bands like the New York Dolls and Alice Cooper. From my perspective, Kiss has always been a bit of a novelty band joke by four mediocre musicians to make a bundle of money.

I wouldn't vote for Kiss or like them anymore than you do, but that wasn't really the point. Performance is considered a part of what rock' n' roll is and Kiss are pretty much known for that. The hall of fame target rock icons primarily. Kiss have a gimmick. Kiss have an image. Kiss are hard rock' n' roll. Kiss had a huge reception. Kiss are iconic. That's why it's a bit surprising in my opinion.

Dr_Rez 10-23-2013 12:05 AM

I am pretty sure no one actually respects the hall of fame...I mean ABBA made it in before Black Sabbath....in the ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME.

Regarding Paul Butterfield Blues band though Gavin good call. They are often overlooked. I only have one album (one with Blues with a feelin) and I LOVE it.

Taxman 10-23-2013 08:56 AM

Nirvana is overrated since they released only two passable album ('Nevermind' and 'Unplugged' but The Replacements is one of the most underrated bands ever.
And never Kiss, they are awful. Just crap.

Taxman 10-23-2013 08:57 AM

Abba is much better than Sabbath, but yes, Abba certainly are not rock n roll, but then, is Sabbath rock n roll either?

The Batlord 10-23-2013 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Taxman (Post 1376519)
Nirvana is overrated since they released only two passable album ('Nevermind' and 'Unplugged' but The Replacements is one of the most underrated bands ever.
And never Kiss, they are awful. Just crap.

Unplugged is mostly pointless. Just wannabe arty crap that tries to call you out by saying "It's acoustic so therefore it's more artistically relevant and if you don't like it then you're a Philistine". None of the songs on that album are as good as the studio versions. "Dumb" is great, but it's still not better than the original. Why anyone would think that music derived from simplistic punk rock made specifically for electric instruments to be played at as high a volume as possible could be made better with quiet, acoustic strumming is beyond me. The fact that they had to ignore a large part of their catalogue and concentrate on their few "softer" songs should have given it away. The only reason to buy that album unless you're a Nirvana fanatic is the covers. "Where Did You Sleep Last Night" is easily one of the best songs they ever recorded (a song they were covering because it was played by a guy who plays on an acoustic guitar I might add).

Rjinn 10-23-2013 09:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Taxman (Post 1376520)
Abba is much better than Sabbath, but yes, Abba certainly are not rock n roll, but then, is Sabbath rock n roll either?

Comparing ABBA to Black Sabbath is like comparing a tomato to a skewer.

The Batlord 10-23-2013 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Rjinn (Post 1376559)
Comparing ABBA to Black Sabbath is like comparing a tomato to a skewer.

Sabbath would totally skewer ABBA and roast them over a grill.

Taxman 10-25-2013 08:52 AM

It's all subjective gyus. I just find Sabbath to be a little bit laughable. And well, I actually think 'Unplugged' is Nirvana's best album

BongoFury 10-25-2013 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Jopatate (Post 1376392)
Deep purple

They should have been in a long time ago.

Grand Funk should be there as well.

The Batlord 10-26-2013 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Taxman (Post 1377070)
It's all subjective gyus. I just find Sabbath to be a little bit laughable. And well, I actually think 'Unplugged' is Nirvana's best album

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