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Trollheart · 09-21-2013, 06:24 AM

I like Heart, but come on! The lyric is beyond awful. Not every single line has to rhyme with the next one you know! And this was written by Robert John "Mutt" Lange! Yeah... think he'd know better wouldn't you?

Paul Smeenus · 09-21-2013, 11:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Trollheart

I like Heart, but come on! The lyric is beyond awful. Not every single line has to rhyme with the next one you know!

I knew the music critic at the Oregonian (Portland's daily newspaper), he said of Heart "they couldn't make it as the rebirth of Led Zeppelin, so they became the rebirth of Jefferson Starship, and I respect them about as much as a pigeon respects a statue..."

Harsh, but certainly true in the mid-late 80's. I do kinda like some of their early stuff, and they covered "The Battle of Evermore" beautifully as Lovemongers, but....yeah

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And this was written by Robert John "Mutt" Lange! Yeah... think he'd know better wouldn't you?

You mean Mr. Shania Twain? No, I don't think he does. Aside from producing "Highway To Hell" I can't think of anything positive to say about J"M"L

Trollheart · 09-21-2013, 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Paul Smeenus

I knew the music critic at the Oregonian (Portland's daily newspaper), he said of Heart "they couldn't make it as the rebirth of Led Zeppelin, so they became the rebirth of Jefferson Starship, and I respect them about as much as a pigeon respects a statue..."

Harsh, but certainly true in the mid-late 80's. I do kinda like some of their early stuff, and they covered "The Battle of Evermore" beautifully as Lovemongers, but....yeah

You mean Mr. Shania Twain? No, I don't think he does. Aside from producing "Highway To Hell" I can't think of anything positive to say about J"M"L

In fairness most of the Heart material I have is from the 80s and is quite good (Bad Animals, Heart, Brigade etc) but that song sucks a big one.

As for JML, surely you're not forgetting Def Leppard and the Cars?
"Heartbeat city" not one of the greatest ever produced pop/rock albums of that era?

Unknown Soldier · 09-21-2013, 02:21 PM

I've noticed the Final Countdown popping up quite a bit and whilst I recognize its a terrible song, I actually do quite like it.

John 'Mutt' Lange well I can't believe he's getting mentioned, as a producer he's something of a perfectionist which I guess would put some people off and I guess he got involved with the likes of Shania Twain and Nickelback as well, but he's worked with Def Leppard, Foreigner, the Cars and the Boomtown Rats and these were mostly good to very good albums.

Neapolitan · 09-21-2013, 03:10 PM

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I've noticed the Final Countdown popping up quite a bit and whilst I recognize its a terrible song, I actually do quite like it.

John 'Mutt' Lange well I can't believe he's getting mentioned, as a producer he's something of a perfectionist which I guess would put some people off and I guess he got involved with the likes of Shania Twain and Nickelback as well, but he's worked with Def Leppard, Foreigner, the Cars and the Boomtown Rats and these were mostly good to very good albums.

Pyromania was epic.

Unknown Soldier · 09-21-2013, 04:10 PM

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Pyromania was epic.

..and so was Heartbeat City.

Trollheart · 09-21-2013, 04:22 PM

That's what I said. But have you listened to the lyric of "All I want to do is make love to you?" Jesus! Even the two sections of the TITLE rhyme! I mean, come on JML! Bit of originality here, huh?

Lisnaholic · 09-21-2013, 05:43 PM

haha! Some truly terrible stuff here!

Even though I was only 10 at the time, I could work out that these guys were just embarrassing. As an adult, what bugs me is the way they are using a not serious presentation to promote a not funny song; clear proof that two wrongs don´t make a right.

By default alone,the drummer -and the dog- are the only ones to retain any semblance of dignity in this clip;

Screen13 · 09-21-2013, 06:36 PM

War is stupid, and people are stupid. Please tell me something I don't know!
This whole song is stupid, including a melody that sounds like it was whipped up in the studio that matched something that sounds like a sideways re-write of the start of "It's a Miracle" with a couple of more chords. Looking on the good side, the vocals show some emotion, but that's about all I can say.

Possibly the worst protest song of The 80's...maybe. Overproduced, with an annoying "Great Gig in the Sky" rip in the mid part, and promoted with an expensive video which backfires in it's aims by making war look very attractive and designed by a fashion company, this contains some of the worst lyrics ever. Being the single that wrecked Culture Club's string of well chosen singles and the one that hurt their credibility (Their first two albums had some strong Pop), this is clearly the moment New Pop had to die.

Screen13 · 09-21-2013, 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Trollheart

I like Heart, but come on! The lyric is beyond awful. Not every single line has to rhyme with the next one you know! And this was written by Robert John "Mutt" Lange! Yeah... think he'd know better wouldn't you?

I hear you on that, although that's a work of heart-felt (OUCH!) MOR solid genius compared to what I call the worst 80's Commercial Reinvention to happen. True, Jefferson Starship was already getting to the worthless point, but this was where everything went totally wrong.

I present to you the neon nightmare of Starship's big US #1 of 1985 and the reason why I still site that year as one of the worst. Robotic, clunky, and seriously representative of a decade gone wrong outside of Billy Squire's "Rock Me Tonight". The only good thing about it was the stupid Boom-WHACK-boom-boom-WHACK me and my friend made fun of (the attack of the 80's Treble-Beat)...although that possibly was the thing that turned it into a mega hit as well.

09-21-2013, 06:24 AM	#21 (permalink)
Trollheart Born to be mild Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 404 Not Found Posts: 26,994	I like Heart, but come on! The lyric is beyond awful. Not every single line has to rhyme with the next one you know! And this was written by Robert John "Mutt" Lange! Yeah... think he'd know better wouldn't you? __________________ Trollheart: Signature-free since April 2018

09-21-2013, 04:22 PM	#27 (permalink)
Trollheart Born to be mild Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 404 Not Found Posts: 26,994	That's what I said. But have you listened to the lyric of "All I want to do is make love to you?" Jesus! Even the two sections of the TITLE rhyme! I mean, come on JML! Bit of originality here, huh? __________________ Trollheart: Signature-free since April 2018

09-21-2013, 05:43 PM	#28 (permalink)
Lisnaholic ...here to hear... Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: He lives on Love Street Posts: 4,444	haha! Some truly terrible stuff here! Even though I was only 10 at the time, I could work out that these guys were just embarrassing. As an adult, what bugs me is the way they are using a not serious presentation to promote a not funny song; clear proof that two wrongs don´t make a right. By default alone,the drummer -and the dog- are the only ones to retain any semblance of dignity in this clip; __________________ "Am I enjoying this moment? I know of it and perhaps that is enough." - Sybille Bedford, 1953

09-21-2013, 06:36 PM	#29 (permalink)
Screen13 Music Addict Join Date: Jan 2010 Posts: 1,388	War is stupid, and people are stupid. Please tell me something I don't know! This whole song is stupid, including a melody that sounds like it was whipped up in the studio that matched something that sounds like a sideways re-write of the start of "It's a Miracle" with a couple of more chords. Looking on the good side, the vocals show some emotion, but that's about all I can say. Possibly the worst protest song of The 80's...maybe. Overproduced, with an annoying "Great Gig in the Sky" rip in the mid part, and promoted with an expensive video which backfires in it's aims by making war look very attractive and designed by a fashion company, this contains some of the worst lyrics ever. Being the single that wrecked Culture Club's string of well chosen singles and the one that hurt their credibility (Their first two albums had some strong Pop), this is clearly the moment New Pop had to die. Last edited by Screen13; 09-21-2013 at 07:08 PM.