So....Is it possible to be innovative in Hard Rock anymore?

zabrak · 08-18-2013, 08:01 PM

You know, I was checking out Audioslave's debut album, and it as you can see here:

en(DOT)wikipedia.org/wiki/Audioslave_(album)#Reception

it just got straight average reviews, mainly because critics noted that it wasn't nearly as forward-thinking as Rage or Soundgarden.

So I guess I'm asking if there's any innovative hard rock groups around anymore

There's Queens of the Stone Age, but their last truly forward-thinking hard rock album came out back in '02:

en(DOT)wikipedia.org/wiki/Songs_for_the_Deaf#Release_and_reception

Anybody know anything else, though?

oh, and I'm aware that there's been plenty of good indie rock bands throughout the 2000s and what have you, but I'm talking about more of straight Hard Rock

jackhammer · 08-18-2013, 08:41 PM

Audioslave are **** so judging anything else by them is pure folly.

blackdragon123 · 08-19-2013, 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by jackhammer

Audioslave are ****.

I disagree

Black Francis · 08-19-2013, 04:43 PM

Hard rock?

would the Darkness count in that genre or is that pop rock? (im so bad with genres) lol

You mentioned QOTS but how about the eagles of death metal or the foo fighters?

I heard audioslave and velvet revolver but they didn't really impressed me i rather prefer the Darkness cause to me they have great classic guitar riffs like Thin lizzy or obviously Queen

i didn't like the darkness when they first came our but lately they've been growing on me

The Darkness - Growing On Me - YouTube

you can also try Wolfmother they sound like straight up hard rock n roll to me

Norg · 08-20-2013, 02:03 AM

of course it is but its reallllyy hard 2 do so

the problem with being innovative in hard rock is everything has been done before and its hard to come up with something new and fresh

**Janszoon** · 08-20-2013, 05:54 AM

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Originally Posted by zabrak

oh, and I'm aware that there's been plenty of good indie rock bands throughout the 2000s and what have you, but I'm talking about more of straight Hard Rock

I think playing a style straight means adhering to the conventions of the genre, and by definition if you're adhering to convention you're not being innovative.

djchameleon · 08-20-2013, 06:25 AM

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Originally Posted by jackhammer

Audioslave are **** so judging anything else by them is pure folly.

that's harsh JH.

Audioslave is pretty damn good in my opinion but sure they might not be doing anything particular innovative that they should be held to such a high standard. They constantly put out good material when they were active.

Also the only thing that The Darkness is doing was reviving that arena rock sound from the 80s. There was another band that did it as well Bang Camaro

**Janszoon** · 08-20-2013, 06:27 AM

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Originally Posted by djchameleon

that's harsh JH.

Audioslave is pretty damn good in my opinion but sure they might not be doing anything particular innovative that they should be held to such a high standard. They constantly put out good material when they were active.

I've never heard anything by them that was better than complete garbage.

djchameleon · 08-20-2013, 06:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon

I've never heard anything by them that was better than complete garbage.

well okay....that's like your opinion...man..

Killz4theBillz · 08-20-2013, 09:13 AM

Hard rock is my style. Try bands like RED, or Avenged Sevenfold. They may not be straightforward, but they are great bands. Mostly alternative metal or Nu-Metal.

08-18-2013, 08:01 PM	#1 (permalink)
zabrak Groupie Join Date: Apr 2012 Posts: 5	So....Is it possible to be innovative in Hard Rock anymore? You know, I was checking out Audioslave's debut album, and it as you can see here: en(DOT)wikipedia.org/wiki/Audioslave_(album)#Reception it just got straight average reviews, mainly because critics noted that it wasn't nearly as forward-thinking as Rage or Soundgarden. So I guess I'm asking if there's any innovative hard rock groups around anymore There's Queens of the Stone Age, but their last truly forward-thinking hard rock album came out back in '02: en(DOT)wikipedia.org/wiki/Songs_for_the_Deaf#Release_and_reception Anybody know anything else, though? oh, and I'm aware that there's been plenty of good indie rock bands throughout the 2000s and what have you, but I'm talking about more of straight Hard Rock

08-18-2013, 08:41 PM	#2 (permalink)
jackhammer Ba and Be. Join Date: May 2007 Location: This Is England Posts: 17,331	Audioslave are **** so judging anything else by them is pure folly. __________________ It be my music and film collection. “A cynic by experience, a romantic by inclination and now a hero by necessity.”

08-19-2013, 04:43 PM	#4 (permalink)
Black Francis Out of Place Join Date: Nov 2011 Location: in an abstract house Posts: 4,111	Hard rock? would the Darkness count in that genre or is that pop rock? (im so bad with genres) lol You mentioned QOTS but how about the eagles of death metal or the foo fighters? I heard audioslave and velvet revolver but they didn't really impressed me i rather prefer the Darkness cause to me they have great classic guitar riffs like Thin lizzy or obviously Queen i didn't like the darkness when they first came our but lately they've been growing on me The Darkness - Growing On Me - YouTube you can also try Wolfmother they sound like straight up hard rock n roll to me __________________ "Hey Kids you got to meet the MIGHTY PIXIES!" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JbRbCtIgW3A

08-20-2013, 02:03 AM	#5 (permalink)
Norg Music Addict Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 2,358	of course it is but its reallllyy hard 2 do so the problem with being innovative in hard rock is everything has been done before and its hard to come up with something new and fresh

08-20-2013, 09:13 AM	#10 (permalink)
Killz4theBillz Groupie Join Date: Aug 2013 Posts: 2	Hard rock is my style. Try bands like RED, or Avenged Sevenfold. They may not be straightforward, but they are great bands. Mostly alternative metal or Nu-Metal.