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zabrak 08-18-2013 07:01 PM

So....Is it possible to be innovative in Hard Rock anymore?
 
You know, I was checking out Audioslave's debut album, and it as you can see here:

en(DOT)wikipedia.org/wiki/Audioslave_(album)#Reception

it just got straight average reviews, mainly because critics noted that it wasn't nearly as forward-thinking as Rage or Soundgarden.

So I guess I'm asking if there's any innovative hard rock groups around anymore

There's Queens of the Stone Age, but their last truly forward-thinking hard rock album came out back in '02:

en(DOT)wikipedia.org/wiki/Songs_for_the_Deaf#Release_and_reception


Anybody know anything else, though?

oh, and I'm aware that there's been plenty of good indie rock bands throughout the 2000s and what have you, but I'm talking about more of straight Hard Rock

jackhammer 08-18-2013 07:41 PM

Audioslave are **** so judging anything else by them is pure folly.

blackdragon123 08-19-2013 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by jackhammer (Post 1358809)
Audioslave are ****.

I disagree

Black Francis 08-19-2013 03:43 PM

Hard rock?

would the Darkness count in that genre or is that pop rock? (im so bad with genres) lol

You mentioned QOTS but how about the eagles of death metal or the foo fighters?

I heard audioslave and velvet revolver but they didn't really impressed me i rather prefer the Darkness cause to me they have great classic guitar riffs like Thin lizzy or obviously Queen

i didn't like the darkness when they first came our but lately they've been growing on me


The Darkness - Growing On Me - YouTube

you can also try Wolfmother they sound like straight up hard rock n roll to me

Norg 08-20-2013 01:03 AM

of course it is but its reallllyy hard 2 do so

the problem with being innovative in hard rock is everything has been done before and its hard to come up with something new and fresh

Janszoon 08-20-2013 04:54 AM

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Originally Posted by zabrak (Post 1358780)
oh, and I'm aware that there's been plenty of good indie rock bands throughout the 2000s and what have you, but I'm talking about more of straight Hard Rock

I think playing a style straight means adhering to the conventions of the genre, and by definition if you're adhering to convention you're not being innovative.

djchameleon 08-20-2013 05:25 AM

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Originally Posted by jackhammer (Post 1358809)
Audioslave are **** so judging anything else by them is pure folly.

that's harsh JH.

Audioslave is pretty damn good in my opinion but sure they might not be doing anything particular innovative that they should be held to such a high standard. They constantly put out good material when they were active.

Also the only thing that The Darkness is doing was reviving that arena rock sound from the 80s. There was another band that did it as well Bang Camaro

Janszoon 08-20-2013 05:27 AM

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Originally Posted by djchameleon (Post 1359283)
that's harsh JH.

Audioslave is pretty damn good in my opinion but sure they might not be doing anything particular innovative that they should be held to such a high standard. They constantly put out good material when they were active.

I've never heard anything by them that was better than complete garbage.

djchameleon 08-20-2013 05:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon (Post 1359284)
I've never heard anything by them that was better than complete garbage.

well okay....that's like your opinion...man..

Killz4theBillz 08-20-2013 08:13 AM

Hard rock is my style. Try bands like RED, or Avenged Sevenfold. They may not be straightforward, but they are great bands. Mostly alternative metal or Nu-Metal.

blackdragon123 08-20-2013 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon (Post 1359284)
I've never heard anything by them that was better than complete garbage.

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Dr_Rez 08-20-2013 12:17 PM

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Originally Posted by djchameleon (Post 1359286)
well okay....that's like your opinion...man..

Nice.

http://adudesguide.com/wordpress/wp-...5/bl-dude.jpeg

And for the record as Rage and Soundgarden fan I dont know how people couldnt like at least the first Audioslave album. At least state why.

Paul Smeenus 08-20-2013 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by blackdragon123 (Post 1359378)
lol, if read a certain way that comment would imply that you like complete garbage LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOOLolololololoolololololo lololololololololololololololololololololololooooo oOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLO


Ten thousand L's and O's does not a refutation make.

Just sayin'...

Black Francis 08-20-2013 01:08 PM

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Originally Posted by djchameleon (Post 1359283)

Also the only thing that The Darkness is doing was reviving that arena rock sound from the 80s. There was another band that did it as well Bang Camaro

i'll check them out but still i like the darkness i think they are more than just arena rock they're a good band imo

duga 08-20-2013 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Rezdaddy Longlegs (Post 1359421)
And for the record as Rage and Soundgarden fan I dont know how people couldnt like at least the first Audioslave album. At least state why.

That's where I fall in. Badmotorfinger and Rage's self titled are two albums I loved in high school that I actually still really like. I thought Audioslave's first album was pretty damn good. Tom still got to let loose (he got a bit more creative here than on Battle of Los Angeles imo) and Chris Cornell still sounded great. Out of Exile, though...that's a different story.

djchameleon 08-20-2013 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by duga (Post 1359465)
That's where I fall in. Badmotorfinger and Rage's self titled are two albums I loved in high school that I actually still really like. I thought Audioslave's first album was pretty damn good. Tom still got to let loose (he got a bit more creative here than on Battle of Los Angeles imo) and Chris Cornell still sounded great. Out of Exile, though...that's a different story.

What are your thoughts on Revelations?

duga 08-20-2013 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by djchameleon (Post 1359496)
What are your thoughts on Revelations?

I can't say I gave it much of a chance. I heard the singles and really didn't have the patience after Out of Exile. Why? Is it worth checking out?

djchameleon 08-20-2013 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by duga (Post 1359506)
I can't say I gave it much of a chance. I heard the singles and really didn't have the patience after Out of Exile. Why? Is it worth checking out?

I feel like it was a solid release through and through and they made up for Out of Exile. Give it a spin and let me know you if you feel the same way.

LoathsomePete 08-20-2013 03:43 PM

For whatever reason I always found myself getting really bored about halfway through the first two Audioslave albums (didn't even bother with the 3rd minus the first single "Original Fire" or whatever it was called). I always enjoyed the singles but the rest of the albums always felt like filler. It really did just feel like a Chris Cornell/ Tom Morello project, whereas each member of RATM felt absolutely vital to that sound.

Janszoon 08-20-2013 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Rezdaddy Longlegs (Post 1359421)
And for the record as Rage and Soundgarden fan I dont know how people couldnt like at least the first Audioslave album. At least state why.

I'm not sure I've heard that entire album so can't comment on it as a whole. All I can tell you is every single song I've ever heard by Audioslave seemed dull, middle of the road and very forgettable to me. Nothing really distinguishes them, which to me is one of the worst possible attributes a band can have.

musicchamberdubai 08-21-2013 06:15 AM

Yes, there are chances to do innovative things in every genre, but it needs more dedication and effort to do something innovative even in easiest way.

singhabhishek251 08-21-2013 06:16 AM

Why not? I support Musicchamberdubai for the thought and completely agree that there is always an open door in every area.

Urban Hat€monger ? 08-21-2013 06:24 AM

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Originally Posted by singhabhishek251 (Post 1359776)
Why not? I support Musicchamberdubai for the thought and completely agree that there is always an open door in every area.

Well you would, you both have the same IP address

blackdragon123 08-21-2013 07:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Paul Smeenus (Post 1359443)
Ten thousand L's and O's does not a refutation make.

Just sayin'...

Does it look like my comment was meant to be taken seriously?

Dr_Rez 08-21-2013 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Urban Hat€monger ? (Post 1359779)
Well you would, you both have the same IP address

http://www.gifcrap.com/g2data/albums...0mad%20man.gif

Busted


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