older music =/= better music

zman419 · 08-07-2013, 02:43 PM

Ok before i begin I would like to say, even though I don't like a lot of older music I respect them. I know rock music would be nowhere without the beatles and metal would be no where without iron maiden and metallica, and chances are music wouldn't even be a profitable industry without big band music in the early 1900's (remember, in the olden day musicians were poor, not rich.) I respect ALL musicians for their music (yes even nicki minaj) as much as i don't like them. It's just the way i am.
This all being said, we seem to have a misconception that old music = better music. I would like to point out that this is not true. In this day and age whenever I compare an old school rock band like the beatles with a newschool rock band like rise against, i notice something. Compared to todays rock music old rock music is kind of generic and boring. This is definately had something to do with the fact that there wasn't much to build on at the time and the genre was just dipping it's feet in the water. and yes i admit creating a genre takes an insurmountable amount of still and talent. However, in my opinion as the generations go by every genre get's built on more and more and is getting better and better. With every new generation of musicians we get new and even more creative ideas being used in music, and I find that whenever and old band comes out with a new album (like rush) it tends to try to follow sort of the "old" styles of music (as far as creativitie's concerned). But a newer prog band on the scene such as between the buried and me is fairly young and absolutely full of fresh ideas.
Before i go, again i would like to say i respect all musicians (even ones that are considered top 40 **** or are generally considered *******s). It isn't easy to do what they do no matter who they are or what genre they preform. (hell nicki minaj and lil whayne even, they work hard. Do you think going out and preforming every night is easy. or having to stay up late in the studio reccording.) And i respect what bands like rush, the beatles and acdc have done for the industry. I guess the whole point of this is, keep an open mind when it comes to new bands on the scene, you just might find a new favorite.

DriveYourCarDownToTheSea · 08-07-2013, 03:23 PM

This is almost the same topic as this one here. And undoubtedly many other threads, too.

blackdragon123 · 08-08-2013, 07:36 AM

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Originally Posted by zman419

This is definately had something to do with the fact that there wasn't much to build on at the time and the genre was just dipping it's feet in the water. and yes i admit creating a genre takes an insurmountable amount of still and talent. However, in my opinion as the generations go by every genre get's built on more and more and is getting better and better. With every new generation of musicians we get new and even more creative ideas being used in music, .

Gonna have to take issue with these bold statements. You seem to contradict yourself somewhat. Claiming that in every new generation, the old genres get built upon and we get new and "even more creative" ideas being used...but surely it's more creative to CREATE a new genre like heavy metal or prog rock or punk...wandering into unknown territory and pioneering brand new sounds than building on old ones that have existed for decades? bringing little to the table in terms of CREATIVITY and being too afraid to wander off the beaten track?

zman419 · 08-09-2013, 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by blackdragon123

Gonna have to take issue with these bold statements. You seem to contradict yourself somewhat. Claiming that in every new generation, the old genres get built upon and we get new and "even more creative" ideas being used...but surely it's more creative to CREATE a new genre like heavy metal or prog rock or punk...wandering into unknown territory and pioneering brand new sounds than building on old ones that have existed for decades? bringing little to the table in terms of CREATIVITY and being too afraid to wander off the beaten track?

ok fine fine fine. you win this round.
however the point is a lot of older music i find to be a bit boring or bland. For example, i can't really stand the beatles or jimi hendrix. It's honestly sounds really dated, basic and generic by todays standard.
it seems like a lot of people are closed minded when it comes to new music and if your favorite band was formed in the past 15 years or so you're usually called some sort of variation of scene ***got.
Hell if i were to make i list of my top 10 favorite artists, dream theater would be the only band formed before 1990 to make the list.

**Janszoon** · 08-09-2013, 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by blackdragon123

Gonna have to take issue with these bold statements. You seem to contradict yourself somewhat. Claiming that in every new generation, the old genres get built upon and we get new and "even more creative" ideas being used...but surely it's more creative to CREATE a new genre like heavy metal or prog rock or punk...wandering into unknown territory and pioneering brand new sounds than building on old ones that have existed for decades? bringing little to the table in terms of CREATIVITY and being too afraid to wander off the beaten track?

All of the genres you just mentioned were themselves built upon older sounds, it's not as if they popped into existence fully formed.

Mondo Bungle · 08-09-2013, 04:41 PM

Old music is dated? :O

**Janszoon** · 08-09-2013, 04:41 PM

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Old music is dated? :O

blackdragon123 · 08-10-2013, 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon

All of the genres you just mentioned were themselves built upon older sounds, it's not as if they popped into existence fully formed.

I never said they popped into existence fully formed

08-07-2013, 02:43 PM	#1 (permalink)
zman419 Music Addict Join Date: Apr 2013 Posts: 64	older music =/= better music Ok before i begin I would like to say, even though I don't like a lot of older music I respect them. I know rock music would be nowhere without the beatles and metal would be no where without iron maiden and metallica, and chances are music wouldn't even be a profitable industry without big band music in the early 1900's (remember, in the olden day musicians were poor, not rich.) I respect ALL musicians for their music (yes even nicki minaj) as much as i don't like them. It's just the way i am. This all being said, we seem to have a misconception that old music = better music. I would like to point out that this is not true. In this day and age whenever I compare an old school rock band like the beatles with a newschool rock band like rise against, i notice something. Compared to todays rock music old rock music is kind of generic and boring. This is definately had something to do with the fact that there wasn't much to build on at the time and the genre was just dipping it's feet in the water. and yes i admit creating a genre takes an insurmountable amount of still and talent. However, in my opinion as the generations go by every genre get's built on more and more and is getting better and better. With every new generation of musicians we get new and even more creative ideas being used in music, and I find that whenever and old band comes out with a new album (like rush) it tends to try to follow sort of the "old" styles of music (as far as creativitie's concerned). But a newer prog band on the scene such as between the buried and me is fairly young and absolutely full of fresh ideas. Before i go, again i would like to say i respect all musicians (even ones that are considered top 40 ** or are generally considered *****s). It isn't easy to do what they do no matter who they are or what genre they preform. (hell nicki minaj and lil whayne even, they work hard. Do you think going out and preforming every night is easy. or having to stay up late in the studio reccording.) And i respect what bands like rush, the beatles and acdc have done for the industry. I guess the whole point of this is, keep an open mind when it comes to new bands on the scene, you just might find a new favorite.

08-07-2013, 03:23 PM	#2 (permalink)
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