Criticizing Music Taste

djchameleon · 08-13-2013, 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Arya Stark

Yes but your question was if you met people with the same music taste as me and I found out they were horrible people. I usually find that everywhere I go.

All artists are going to have fans you like and fans you don't. There's no way you can go to a concert and like every single person there!

That's true but I guess I meant it on a more personal level like how Bulldog mentioned it.

Maybe an ex-friend or ex-lover.

Urban Hat€monger ? · 08-13-2013, 08:41 AM

This forum would be so much more fun if people didn't have such a stick up their ass about this subject.
You can slate my tastes till you're blue in the face, I don't give a f*ck. In fact I find it funny. Why the hell would I get upset if you made fun of me for listening to The Fall or Suede or whoever? Mark E Smith & Bret Anderson have never gotten in a fight for my benefit so why the hell would I get in one defending them?

Whether you spend the day chinstroking to some seminal Jazz album or dance around all day listening to S Club7, it really makes no difference to me. If you can't take a lighthearted prodding about some of the stuff you listen to you're a humourless ass who deserves to be shunned on the forum.

djchameleon · 08-13-2013, 08:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Urban Hat€monger ?

This forum would be so much more fun if people didn't have such a stick up their ass about this subject.

I think the reason they have a "stick up their ass" about this subject. It might be the fact that they are passionate about their favorite artists and they feel like it's a slight against them when their artist is criticized.

Not everyone can be as cool as a cucumber like you Urban.

Urban Hat€monger ? · 08-13-2013, 08:58 AM

pffffft

Making fun of Trollheart's bad power metal / gothy albums in his journal is half the reason I come here.

~~Soulflower~~ · 08-13-2013, 10:40 AM

I think that this topic can really go both ways.

Ive engaged in discussions here where alot of people are made to look like their "close minded" when in reality they are simply stating their opinion. There is a big difference between expressing yourself in a respectful way versus criticizing someone in order to make them feel bad. I dont see anything wrong with maybe suggesting different artists and genres to someone who is obviously not exposed to a certain type of music. (I dont see how that is criticizing their music taste when you are giving suggestions that could possibly broaden their music library) I think the problem comes into play when a person's "character" is judged because of the type of music they listen to.

I guess in away the type of music we listen to is a small reflection of our personality/interests because that is all apart of what makes us who we are (which is why these music opinions/debates are taken so personally) but I think its silly to just allow that to be the only premise of how you judge someones character. Its silly to think negatively of someone just because they listen to a different style of music then you do.

I just think its important to be open minded when it comes to different music opinions. Everyone is not a "hater" or a music snob. Likewise if someone listens to Brittany Spears from time to time it doesnt necessarily mean they dont like The Who, Prince, etc People have their own taste and opinions on different things and if people were more open minded instead of on the defense they could learn alot from people who share different views from them.

Redminx · 08-13-2013, 07:11 PM

I won't lie, I do judge people according to their taste in music. If you like the music I like, I'll feel better about you as a person. We have more in common and can develop a deeper relationship. I want to think you are a great person. Mostly because I want someone to go to shows with. If you listen to music I think is bad, then most likely I'll just ignore that fact and try to focus on other qualities you have. However if you insist on shoving your garbage music down my throat, I may get a bit mean spirited and tell you want I really think of you and your favorite artist.

Then there are the die hard fans of superficial music. If a person starts talking about how great Lil' Wayne is or that Drake is the best thing in the world, I will judge that person. They put themselves out there. I'll suspect that they haven't been exposed to much in that genre besides what has been fed to them through marketing. I won't take them seriously when conversing about music, because in my eyes they don't have the experience.

Astronomer · 08-14-2013, 02:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Urban Hat€monger ?

This forum would be so much more fun if people didn't have such a stick up their ass about this subject.
You can slate my tastes till you're blue in the face, I don't give a f*ck. In fact I find it funny. Why the hell would I get upset if you made fun of me for listening to The Fall or Suede or whoever? Mark E Smith & Bret Anderson have never gotten in a fight for my benefit so why the hell would I get in one defending them?

Whether you spend the day chinstroking to some seminal Jazz album or dance around all day listening to S Club7, it really makes no difference to me. If you can't take a lighthearted prodding about some of the stuff you listen to you're a humourless ass who deserves to be shunned on the forum.

Agreed, isn't it the beauty that we all have differing/conflicting tastes to generate a bit of discussion, debate and banter?

Circe · 08-14-2013, 07:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Astronomer

Agreed, isn't it the beauty that we all have differing/conflicting tastes to generate a bit of discussion, debate and banter?

I think the issue is when those discussions and debates quickly escalate into something ugly. Music is a subject that's deeply rooted in cultures and subcultures, which makes it very easy to latch on to as a fan that's eager to defend his/her interests. If, say, you have major love for Placebo that's influenced by you following an indie or androgynous subculture then see someone write them off as a bunch of angsty nonsense then you could easily take that criticism of the band as a criticism of yourself or your life choices. The point I'm basically trying to get across is that criticising someone's music tastes can easily be taken as a criticism of that person as a whole which is obviously not an easy thing to brush off and react to moderately. Plus it's easy to form one-way personal attachments to the people making the music (celebrity worship at its most extreme but it can easily just be as simple as a respect for the artist) and seeing others insult their production can be taken as if one of your real-life friends or family had just had their work insulted.

Paedantic Basterd · 08-16-2013, 06:09 PM

I'd say that it's also a matter of knowing your audience. Slagging a new forum member is going to have different results from slagging a regular, quite obviously, and I don't think it's fair to do the former unless that person's attitude towards new things is negative.

Trollheart · 08-16-2013, 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Urban Hat€monger ?

pffffft

Making fun of Trollheart's bad power metal / gothy albums in his journal is half the reason I come here.

I thought you came for the free beer?

And you forgot my interminable prog albums. Ye're slippin' Urban! Ye're slippin'!

08-13-2013, 08:41 AM	#112 (permalink)
Urban Hat€monger ? The Sexual Intellectual Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Somewhere cooler than you Posts: 18,605	This forum would be so much more fun if people didn't have such a stick up their ass about this subject. You can slate my tastes till you're blue in the face, I don't give a fck. In fact I find it funny. Why the hell would I get upset if you made fun of me for listening to The Fall or Suede or whoever? Mark E Smith & Bret Anderson have never gotten in a fight for my benefit so why the hell would I get in one defending them? Whether you spend the day chinstroking to some seminal Jazz album or dance around all day listening to S Club7, it really makes no difference to me. If you can't take a lighthearted prodding about some of the stuff you listen to you're a humourless ass who deserves to be shunned on the forum. __________________ Urb's RYM Stuff Most people sell their soul to the devil, but the devil sells his soul to Nick Cave.*

08-13-2013, 08:58 AM	#114 (permalink)
Urban Hat€monger ? The Sexual Intellectual Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Somewhere cooler than you Posts: 18,605	pffffft Making fun of Trollheart's bad power metal / gothy albums in his journal is half the reason I come here. __________________ Urb's RYM Stuff Most people sell their soul to the devil, but the devil sells his soul to Nick Cave.

08-13-2013, 10:40 AM	#115 (permalink)
~~Soulflower~~ Account Disabled Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 2,304	I think that this topic can really go both ways. Ive engaged in discussions here where alot of people are made to look like their "close minded" when in reality they are simply stating their opinion. There is a big difference between expressing yourself in a respectful way versus criticizing someone in order to make them feel bad. I dont see anything wrong with maybe suggesting different artists and genres to someone who is obviously not exposed to a certain type of music. (I dont see how that is criticizing their music taste when you are giving suggestions that could possibly broaden their music library) I think the problem comes into play when a person's "character" is judged because of the type of music they listen to. I guess in away the type of music we listen to is a small reflection of our personality/interests because that is all apart of what makes us who we are (which is why these music opinions/debates are taken so personally) but I think its silly to just allow that to be the only premise of how you judge someones character. Its silly to think negatively of someone just because they listen to a different style of music then you do. I just think its important to be open minded when it comes to different music opinions. Everyone is not a "hater" or a music snob. Likewise if someone listens to Brittany Spears from time to time it doesnt necessarily mean they dont like The Who, Prince, etc People have their own taste and opinions on different things and if people were more open minded instead of on the defense they could learn alot from people who share different views from them.

08-13-2013, 07:11 PM	#116 (permalink)
Redminx Groupie Join Date: Aug 2013 Posts: 3	I won't lie, I do judge people according to their taste in music. If you like the music I like, I'll feel better about you as a person. We have more in common and can develop a deeper relationship. I want to think you are a great person. Mostly because I want someone to go to shows with. If you listen to music I think is bad, then most likely I'll just ignore that fact and try to focus on other qualities you have. However if you insist on shoving your garbage music down my throat, I may get a bit mean spirited and tell you want I really think of you and your favorite artist. Then there are the die hard fans of superficial music. If a person starts talking about how great Lil' Wayne is or that Drake is the best thing in the world, I will judge that person. They put themselves out there. I'll suspect that they haven't been exposed to much in that genre besides what has been fed to them through marketing. I won't take them seriously when conversing about music, because in my eyes they don't have the experience.

08-16-2013, 06:09 PM	#119 (permalink)
Paedantic Basterd Music Addict Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 5,184	I'd say that it's also a matter of knowing your audience. Slagging a new forum member is going to have different results from slagging a regular, quite obviously, and I don't think it's fair to do the former unless that person's attitude towards new things is negative.