Is music streaming "enough"?

anathematized_one · 07-11-2013, 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by djchameleon

Yes but the same thing goes for buying CDs. they get paid way less. If you want to really support your artist that you are fan of, you buy merch at their concerts. I don't feel like you need to own physical media to be considered a fan. In this digital age that's such an old fossil of an idea. You can get to know an artist just as well by streaming as you can be buying the physical album. You don't even have to have a strong internet connection anyways because if you have an mp3 player then you can just take the mp3 files that you do have and use that to take them everywhere with you. I do that.

I can stream albums first and if I like them just download them on the spot since I'm still a Zune customer paying to rent these files....grrr that idea gets under my skin but yeah.

There's a great article on TechDirt about RIAA accounting about how little artists make little to no money on album sales. 13% of 20% on average or like $1 for every $1,000 worth of albums sold.

Lyle Lovette (sp?), platinum album, made absolutely $0 from album sales. Most bands, particularly on major labels, are lucky just to break even at $0 profit.

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danilo87 · 08-05-2013, 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by anathematized_one

Most bands, particularly on major labels, are lucky just to break even at $0 profit.

That is right. However, the times have changed. Artists like Radiohead and Amanda Palmer discover new forms of creating value. It is way more important to make people go to a concert than make them buy the records. The popularity of online music grows - but for the reason that it is more and more for free: in order to reach new listeners and motivate more people to visit concerts which is the main source of income for the artists.

#000000 · 08-06-2013, 12:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Briks

If you listen a lot to Black Sabbath on Spotify, have Black Sabbath playlists, but do not own any of their albums, can you consider yourself a fan?

That sounds like a crap standard. From there it's a slippery slope. Can you still call yourself a fan if you haven't bought any of their t-shirts? Can broke teenagers who can't afford their albums call themselves fans if they downloads all the albums?

My definition of fan is someone who likes the music. Not necessarily someone who has invested a small fortune in it.

jackhammer · 08-07-2013, 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Pedestrian

Yes, this is a foolish question. Materialism isn't a gauge of liking things. Couldn't you say that you loved Salvador Dali's or Picasso's work without ever owning a piece? Can you say that you love Thai food if you don't know how to cook it yourself? Can you love a book if you rented it from a library?

I get where u are coming from but music is a far more easier commodity to share around than many other forms of art. How can you extol the virtues of a great book unless physically giving them a copy or asking them to download it and read it for themselves?

Great pieces of artwork can be talked about and enthused upon but you really cannot experience the intimacy unless u own it or walk through a gallery and view it and even then it is not yours. It is not personal, it is a shared experience whereas music can be shared and be far more intimate at times.

So to get back to the original thread, is streaming enough? To pass on information it is virtually essential but to feel an emotional connection to the art u appreciate I answer no.

I have a lot more views on this but will wait for a few more replies.

hip hop bunny hop · 08-08-2013, 07:55 PM

I haven't pirated music in a year or so and my digital music collection consists of a whole two files. My listening habits are, generally speaking, obscure metal bands for whom finding a quality copy of the material is waaaay too much of a pain in the ass & country artists.

For the metal bands, most of them have tapes and records put out for a reasonable price. I like buying releases from these guys because it's important to maintain the label-distro relationship in the metal underground so as to filter out the sheer volume of crap out there. Further, these purchases can (and have, in my case) increase in value, unlike MP3 files.

In regards to country artists - I'd like to build a collection for these guys, but right now what I've got is pretty mediocre so I just rely upon spotify.

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Originally Posted by Pedestrian

WHY doesn't every car have an AUX input, and why is it so difficult to put a CD player in there that has one? That, high-fuel mileage, and the basic functions of a car are all I want in my transportation.

lawl.

My car has that. If an MP3 player is fancy enough, I can navigate artists, albums and songs through my stereo control. I don't even own an MP3 player, though, and have no intention of buying one. I also get 40mpg :P