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Old 06-15-2013, 08:16 PM   #21 (permalink)
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That is what I always thought the main function of any music forum was, to gain more insight and knowledge from other members.
Apparently, I'm ORDERING people to listen to stuff.
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Old 06-15-2013, 08:22 PM   #22 (permalink)
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Apparently, I'm ORDERING people to listen to stuff.
I wouldn't say you were ordering people to but comments like this...

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And if I meet a 14 yo girl and ask her why she listens to Bieber trash and she says, "He's carrying on a great crooning tradition that goes back to Eddie Holman and Smokey Robinson and Clyde McPhatter and Nolan Strong" I'd have to conclude this person is no idiot. But as of right now I can't conclude these girls that listen to him are anything else but idiots.
Make me think you have unrealistic expectations of people.
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Old 06-15-2013, 08:44 PM   #23 (permalink)
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Yeah I agree. This questionnaire is very heavily based on "older" music, from jaz to blues and right back to classical. Had he asked who plays bass in Slayer or name both Iron Maiden guitarists, or maybe what was The Pet Shop Boys' most successful album, I think a lot more people would know these things. Like Necro says, even he and I, at the fifty-year mark, are stumped by some of these questions, so how are kids going to know?

I think it's too one-sided and certainly does not answer the question "how much do you know about music" unless you qualify that by inserting either the word "older" or "certain types of". It needs to be more comprehensive. Look at the list: how many questions refer to music/artistes less than 40 years old in terms of how long they've been around. I mean: Scott Joplin? Give me a break! Seriously. More "modern" questions will give you a far fairer and more balanced result.

Can I have my tuppence worth back now please?

Oh, and my Sherlock Holmes comment was of course a joke...
I did okay on the quiz but I would definitely flunk a quiz with questions about contemporary pop artists like Lady Gaga, Beyonce, Justin Timberlake, Rihanna, and Mumford and Sons.

Most of the artists on your quiz were before my time but any person with a curiosity about music should know about Scott Joplin, Cole Porter, John Coltrane and Duke Ellington.

Some of the roots music questions are challenging even to the musically educated forum members. Few people outside of acoustic guitar players know what the Carter lick is. I know Carter lick is, but I can't explain it to a lay person unless I have a guitar as a prop. It's like trying to explain what hammer-on or a pull-off is without using a guitar to demonstrate the techinques.

Holland Dozier & Holland were Motown's top songwriting team but Norman Whitefield, Barrett Strong, Deke Richards Smokey Robinson and Motown president Barry Gordy were also prolific composers for Motown. I know that Lamont, Dozier and Holland wrote most of the Supreme's big hits but I'd have to do a fact check if you asked me to name a Lamont, Dozier, and Holland song, excluding the Supreme's biggest hits. It's a tough question even for a person with a knowledge of soul music.

I'd be surprised if over 20% of MB forum members percentage know who Blind Willie McTell, Charley Patton and Fred McDowell are. Of course I'd be among the ignorant had one of your questions had been about mariachi music or gangsta rap.

The title "King of the Delta Blues Men" is a dubious one because Robert Johnson, Son House, Willie Brown and Charlie Patton have all been called the "King of the Delta Blues Singers" at one time or another.

Patton was playing a full decade before Son House or Robert Johnson. However Patton's generational peer, Willie Brown was a better singer and guitar player than Patton. But Willie Brown lost his claim to "king" when he only recorded 8 songs and disappeared into obscurity forever, while Patton recorded nearly 100 songs.
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Old 06-15-2013, 11:04 PM   #24 (permalink)
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Some of the roots music questions are challenging even to the musically educated forum members. Few people outside of acoustic guitar players know what the Carter lick is. I know Carter lick is, but I can't explain it to a lay person unless I have a guitar as a prop. It's like trying to explain what hammer-on or a pull-off is without using a guitar to demonstrate the techinques.
The Carter lick is a method of guitar strum that became the foundation of country music. That it had something to do with the Carter Family is all I was looking for. Basically, it's plucking the bass string of a chord followed by the rest of the chord in a kind "oom-pah oom-pah" sort of rhythm that roves up and down the fingerboard. Done correctly, it sounds like two guitars. People thought it was two and were surprised that Maybelle was doing it all by herself.

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Holland Dozier & Holland were Motown's top songwriting team but Norman Whitefield, Barrett Strong, Deke Richards Smokey Robinson and Motown president Barry Gordy were also prolific composers for Motown. I know that Lamont, Dozier and Holland wrote most of the Supreme's big hits but I'd have to do a fact check if you asked me to name a Lamont, Dozier, and Holland song, excluding the Supreme's biggest hits. It's a tough question even for a person with a knowledge of soul music.
"You Can't Hurry Love" was a big hit for Phil Collins. I only asked for one song. "Can't Help Myself" "How Sweet It Is" "Bernadette" "Baby Love" "Keep Me Hanging On" "Reach Out" "Same Old Song" "This Old Heart of Mine" and there's enough contemporary singers still doing these songs that people today should know who HDH is.

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I'd be surprised if over 20% of MB forum members percentage know who Blind Willie McTell, Charley Patton and Fred McDowell are. Of course I'd be among the ignorant had one of your questions had been about mariachi music or gangsta rap.

The title "King of the Delta Blues Men" is a dubious one because Robert Johnson, Son House, Willie Brown and Charlie Patton have all been called the "King of the Delta Blues Singers" at one time or another.

Patton was playing a full decade before Son House or Robert Johnson. However Patton's generational peer, Willie Brown was a better singer and guitar player than Patton. But Willie Brown lost his claim to "king" when he only recorded 8 songs and disappeared into obscurity forever, while Patton recorded nearly 100 songs.
Of the choices I gave only one could have had the title. Blind Willie McTell was a Piedmont bluesman, Lightnin' Hopkins was a Texas bluesman and Mississippi Fred McDowell never lived on the delta but founded a blues subgenre called North Mississippi. He spent the first half of his life in Memphis. Patton is the only one listed that lived on the delta so he is the only viable choice.

I'll bet your average Brit knows more about blues than your average American.
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Make me think you have unrealistic expectations of people.
Why? Do you think a 14 yo Justin Bieber fan knows he is a throwback to Eddie Holman? I don't. And you know why she won't know that? Because nobody told her.
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Why? Do you think a 14 yo Justin Bieber fan knows he is a throwback to Eddie Holman? I don't. And you know why she won't know that? Because nobody told her.
Knowing who Eddie Holman is isn't a prerequisite for listening to Justin Bieber though.
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Of course it isn't but Bieber is not only not particularly original, Eddie Holman could out-sing him on worst day. And the song is the type that made Bieber who he is--"Hey there lonely girl / don't you know this lonely boy loves you" That kind of stuff made Bieber's career and he's just a Holman retread.
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17. Complete the following sentence: Johan Sebastian Bach was a classical composer during the ________ period.
Apparently the misspelled name period.

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26. Beethoven’s teacher was: A. Johan Bach, B. George Frideric Handel, C. Antonio Salieri, D. Josef Haydn, E. None of the above.
Again. Plus Haydn's name was not spelled in the common modern version, historically it was spelled Joseph Haydn



...and in fact he sometimes used the Italian form of the name, Giuseppe



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I mean if you're going to pontificate and demonstrate to all the younger members here as to how vastly superior your musical educaion is, you might as well get your facts straight.

BTW, I challenge you to try your hand at a quiz composed by some of these young members. They are about eight million times smarter than you're giving them credit for, not that it really amounts to a hill of beans what you think of them in the real world.

Oh, one last thing, Urban wins.
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How old are you Paul?

I'm just curious.
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