Trollheart

Yeah I agree. This questionnaire is very heavily based on "older" music, from jaz to blues and right back to classical. Had he asked who plays bass in Slayer or name both Iron Maiden guitarists, or maybe what was The Pet Shop Boys' most successful album, I think a lot more people would know these things. Like Necro says, even he and I, at the fifty-year mark, are stumped by some of these questions, so how are kids going to know?

I think it's too one-sided and certainly does not answer the question "how much do you know about music" unless you qualify that by inserting either the word "older" or "certain types of". It needs to be more comprehensive. Look at the list: how many questions refer to music/artistes less than 40 years old in terms of how long they've been around. I mean: Scott Joplin? Give me a break! Seriously. More "modern" questions will give you a far fairer and more balanced result.

Can I have my tuppence worth back now please?

Oh, and my Sherlock Holmes comment was of course a joke...

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Necromancer

I actually think there is a reason behind his questionnaire, that we don't know the exact reason for yet.

katsy

Most of this material looks like music appreciation 101. While I aced that class and somewhat enjoyed it, well... you don't see me completing it.

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Urban Hat€monger ?

Gender: Yes

Age: Bronze

Do you play an instrument proficiently? Bongos

Without consulting any sources, answer the following questions:

1. Do you know who Miles Davis is? (Just yes or no) Yes

2. Can you name a Miles Davis album? His sixth one

3. Do you know who Doc Watson is? Your gynaecologist?

4. Do you know who Bob Wills is? He's a former England cricket captain from the early 80s

5. Do you know who Duke Ellington is? Duchess Ellingtons husband?

6. Can you name a Duke Ellington song? Yes

7. Do you know who Johnny Ace is? He was Shane Douglas tag team partner in the Dynamic Dudes

8. Do you know who Howlin’ Wolf is? Probably

9. Who was the driving force behind the band T. Rex? John Peel

10. Name a T. Rex song: The one that goes Lalalalalalalala lalalalalala lalala ohhhhhh

11. Complete the following sentence: John Coltrane played the Dog & Duck in High Wycombe to rapturous applause.

12. Who was the Beatles’ drummer before Ringo Starr? Neal Peart

13. Ringo Starr’s real name is: Neil Peart

14. The Supremes recorded for what label? Dolce & Gabbana

15. Do you know who Big Joe Turner is? He replaced Ronnie James Dio & Graham Bonnet in Rainbow, He got the nickname 'Big' because he was 3 foot taller than Ronnie, although most people are, so as soon as people realised this he later became known as Joe 'Average Size' Lynn Turner

16. Name a Big Joe Turner song: That one he did with Yngggwvvvwie Malmsteen

17. Complete the following sentence: Johan Sebastian Bach was a classical composer during the Jurassic period.

18. Name an early form of European liturgical music: Visigoth Soft Rock

19. Name a Holland-Dozier-Holland song: Why?

20. Richard Strauss composed which piece? A. Blue Danube, B. Dance of the Sugar Plum Fairy, C. Rite of Spring, D. Also Sprach Zarathustra, E. None of the above, F. All of the above

He claimed ownership of all of them but secretly ripped all of them off from old blues singers

21. Name a Cole Porter song: I've Got a Lovely Bunch Of Coconuts

22. Complete the following sentence: Yo-Yo Ma plays the Spoons very badly.

23. What is “the Carter lick”? It's what Jimbob & Fruitbat of Carter The Unstoppable Sex Machine gave Phillip Schofield when they invaded the stage of the Smash Hits Poll Winners Party in 1991.

24. Antonio Salieri is important because: A. He invented many of the principles of modern music theory, B. He was the teacher of Franz Schubert, C. He murdered Mozart, D. He wrote many pieces for the pipe organ.

E - He invented the Kazoo

25. What was Mozart’s full name? Jeff

26. Beethoven’s teacher was: A. Johan Bach, B. George Frideric Handel, C. Antonio Salieri, D. Josef Haydn, E. None of the above.

E - Drunk most of the time & smelled of beetroot

27. Beethoven is credited with starting what period of classical music?

Grunge

28. Name a Scott Joplin piece: His Arm

29. Most of Joplin’s pieces were written in which decade? A. 1890-1900, B. 1900-1910, C. 1910-1920, D. 1920-1930.

D. 1920-1930. because ink wasn't invented until 1919

30. Who was “the King of the Mississippi Delta Bluesmen”: A. Charley Patton, B. Blind Willie McTell, C. Lightnin’ Hopkins, D. Mississippi Fred McDowell.

All of them, they take it in turns 3 months each a year

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Burning Down

It's not about age though. You don't have to be "old" to know this stuff just like you don't have to be "young" to know everything about music released in the last 10 years. I'm 23 and would honestly not be able to answer the questions you're suggesting here, without turning to Wikipedia. I know about things that I like, so obviously this sort of thing can be very subjective.

I think that if more modern questions were included along with these questions, yes there would be a more balanced result. Most MB members are seriously lacking in basic knowledge of classical music (in this case, Western Art Music), and jazz (did I just read that someone doesn't know who Miles Davis is? ), so I think the results would still be fairly unbalanced.

You're welcome to make up a similar questionnaire

Lord Larehip

I have no interest in helping anyone pass. I'm interested in what musical foundation they stand on because that tells me how good of a job we do passing on our musical legacy.

Nothing if we don't teach them about it.

Hopefully none. Our musical legacy is far, far older than that. You can't determine how well a 14 yo girl has been educated musically by questioning her about Justin Bieber. Of course she knows who he is. But does she know what made his music even possible? I seriously doubt it (I doubt Bieber knows either). For example, do you think Bieber might own a HUGE debt to this man?


EDDIE HOLMAN hey there lonely girl original video - YouTube

And if I meet a 14 yo girl and ask her why she listens to Bieber trash and she says, "He's carrying on a great crooning tradition that goes back to Eddie Holman and Smokey Robinson and Clyde McPhatter and Nolan Strong" I'd have to conclude this person is no idiot. But as of right now I can't conclude these girls that listen to him are anything else but idiots.

That would be missing the point entirely. I'm asking about Joplin because people should know about Scott Joplin. Why? Because he is one of the most important composers that ever lived. How? Because he inspired people like Irving Berlin to write "Alexander's Ragtime Band" (actually, Berlin stole part of a Joplin piece and used it in the song for which Joplin was highly displeased) and a million singers have done that song which is what gave you the later artists you think I should be concentrating on. Joplin's rags were loved by a cornetist named King Oliver so much that he had the sheet music bound into one volume so he could practice them. When he took on a student, he taught that kid how to play them because he wanted the kid to learn the difference between jazz and blues. That kid was Louis Armstrong--one of the most important musical figures EVER.

So would it kill a person to go back and listen to Joplin? That's what I did and I became a Joplin devotee. In fact, I became a ragtime devotee. I am far more musically enriched because of that than I could ever have been had I never bothered. Who is a better pianist--a kid who can only play Lady Gaga and Alicia Keyes or one who can play that as well as Beethoven, Joplin and Art Tatum (and if you haven't listened to Art Tatum prepare to be astounded)?

David Lee Roth is all well and good but he himself said in interviews that people really should hear this version:


Louis Prima - Just a Gigolo - JazzAndBluesExperience - YouTube

Wouldn't it be a shame if the only version we remember for posterity is Roth's--oh, wait!--that IS how we remember it.

Or how about this?


TINY BRADSHAW ~ THE TRAIN KEPT A-ROLLIN ~ 1951 - YouTube

Wouldn't you rather do a little deeper musical exploration? Isn't that at least partly why you're here?

Burning Down

Oh man, I think I just found my new best friend

Trollheart

I am not going to quote all that, but Lord Larehip you certainly don't take constructive criticism very well. I was merely pointing out NOT that people should not know about Scott Joplin or Mozart, of course they should, but that your questionnaire based a person's knowledge of music SOLELY on those eras. I offered you an alternative view but you obviously don't want to listen to anything else. Must come with the title.

Anyhow, thanks for the caustic replies. My comments were meant as a constructive way to help you streamline this but sure in the end I really don't care about your survey, and I think Urban answered it best.

Good luck with the survey and whatever it's for.

By the way, to your last question, no it isn't. I came here to discuss music I like. Everyone here knows I'm rooted in my own preferred genres. I know what I like and seldom step outside those. Not everyone wants to hear everything that was ever written. Some people do, but those who are happy with what they listen to should not be denigrated for "not being adventurous" enough. I have more than enough to listen to at the moment thanks. Perhaps I will listen to Joplin, perhaps not. But not because you tell me to.

And now, I go back to whatever I do and leave you with your new best friend.

I bid you. adieu.
To you, and you, and you.

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Zer0

The Beatles

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Necromancer

That is what I always thought the main function of any music forum was, to gain more insight and knowledge from other members.

It would be sad if the lounge forum was the most popular forum, at any music site as far as that goes.