Canada vs. USA

~~Scotty The Rebel~~ · 05-21-2013, 07:43 PM

Canada vs. USA... Musically speaking, which country do ya got?

Neapolitan · 05-21-2013, 07:49 PM

Honestly I would go with New Zealand.

**Scarlett O'Hara** · 05-21-2013, 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Neapolitan

Honestly I would go with New Zealand.

You are awesome.

crazed · 05-26-2013, 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Neapolitan

Honestly I would go with New Zealand.

I was thinking this as I was enjoying a Roy Montgomery album.

I voted USA though from Canada I do like Feist, New Pornographers, A Foot in Cold Water, Bachman/Cummings era Guess Who, Rush, Huevos Rancheros, A Passing Fancy, the Sadies, Arcade Fire, Joni Mitchell, Bent Wind, early Bruce Cockburn, Grapes of Wrath, Shadowy Men on a Shadowy Planet, among others.

ladyislingering · 05-21-2013, 07:49 PM

As much as I particularly love Californian artists, I've got to say neither.

LoathsomePete · 05-21-2013, 07:58 PM

I might be biased just because I'm from there, but I have a really deep seeded love for a lot of Canadian artists. I mean if there was some kind of objective way we could measure quality I'm sure the US would win by sheer fact that there's a vast difference in population.

Canada is kind of funny with their perception of themselves from a cultural world view. We know it's pretty hard to compete with the US for cultural influence, so instead we try to make it a little easier for people to gain cultural fame within our own borders. For example, the Government of Canada gives out grants to developing musicians in order to help them get studio time (I don't know the exact specifics of the grant) and it seems all the band has to do is mention that the album was helped funded by that grant. There's also the Canadian Radio Content rule, which dictates that every 10th song played on a music station be a Canadian band. It creates funny situations wherein bands like The Tragically Hip are legends in Canada, but they play at a dingy bar in San Francisco on a Tuesday night.

Burning Down · 05-21-2013, 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by LoathsomePete

I might be biased just because I'm from there, but I have a really deep seeded love for a lot of Canadian artists. I mean if there was some kind of objective way we could measure quality I'm sure the US would win by sheer fact that there's a vast difference in population.

Canada is kind of funny with their perception of themselves from a cultural world view. We know it's pretty hard to compete with the US for cultural influence, so instead we try to make it a little easier for people to gain cultural fame within our own borders. For example, the Government of Canada gives out grants to developing musicians in order to help them get studio time (I don't know the exact specifics of the grant) and it seems all the band has to do is mention that the album was helped funded by that grant. There's also the Canadian Radio Content rule, which dictates that every 10th song played on a music station be a Canadian band. It creates funny situations wherein bands like The Tragically Hip are legends in Canada, but they play at a dingy bar in San Francisco on a Tuesday night.

Yeah I was just going to say the same thing. Very few Canadian artists make it big on the American stage, or even the global stage. Rush is probably the only one I can think of.

LoathsomePete · 05-21-2013, 08:17 PM

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Yeah I was just going to say the same thing. Very few Canadian artists make it big on the American stage, or even the global stage. Rush is probably the only one I can think of.

In terms of global recognition from both mainstream and alternative outlets I'd say Rush is probably our ambassador, but I think a few other groups have infiltrated their ways into importance within specific genres. I definitely think the indie scene wouldn't be where it is today without Arcade Fire, and then there's VoiVod for metal. D.O.A was instrumental for hardcore punk and then there's also Neil Young. Hell, Corb Lund is really starting to catch onto the country music circuit down here.

More make it through the veil then you think, I just wish more people would peer through.

Burning Down · 05-21-2013, 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by LoathsomePete

In terms of global recognition from both mainstream and alternative outlets I'd say Rush is probably our ambassador, but I think a few other groups have infiltrated their ways into importance within specific genres. I definitely think the indie scene wouldn't be where it is today without Arcade Fire, and then there's VoiVod for metal. D.O.A was instrumental for hardcore punk and then there's also Neil Young. Hell, Corb Lund is really starting to catch onto the country music circuit down here.

More make it through the veil then you think, I just wish more people would peer through.

I would also say The Band, thanks to Ronnie Hawkins and Bob Dylan. Can't believe I forgot about them.

hip hop bunny hop · 05-23-2013, 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by LoathsomePete

In terms of global recognition from both mainstream and alternative outlets I'd say Rush is probably our ambassador, but I think a few other groups have infiltrated their ways into importance within specific genres. I definitely think the indie scene wouldn't be where it is today without Arcade Fire, and then there's VoiVod for metal. D.O.A was instrumental for hardcore punk and then there's also Neil Young. Hell, Corb Lund is really starting to catch onto the country music circuit down here.

Two points:

1. Corb Lund is a genuinely fun country musician.

2. You're forgetting the importance of Blasphemy to the black metal scene. You can hardly go to a metal forum without seeing "rbce" (ross bay cult eternal), or discussions of war/bestial black metal. Christ, one of their biggest worship bands (Black Witchery) have somehow become popular to the point I've had several people, in Montana, start conversations with me about the band.

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