The separation between the artist and his music.

CrazyVegn · 04-16-2013, 12:11 PM

Ah, Burning Down, maybe I read wrong.

Trollheart · 04-16-2013, 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by CrazyVegn

Ah, Burning Down, maybe I read wrong.

You did. Though Neal Schon is the founder of Journey he's the lead guitarist.
And "being mean" is hardly applicable: I mean, Van Morrison is a grumpy old **** but you can't put him in with Varg or Gary Glitter. The OP is not talking about people being not nice, he's talking about them being involved in or belonging to organisations or espousing ideas seen as inherently racist, hating or the like: your neo-Nazis, KKK and the like, or someone who's convicted or, I guess, accused of a pretty heinous crime like paedophilia.

None of us are perfect (except me, of course!)

and to expect the musicians we admire to be so is silly. Everyone will have their flaws but it's when it gets to serious levels I believe the OP is posing the question for.

FRED HALE SR. · 04-16-2013, 02:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Trollheart

You did. Though Neal Schon is the founder of Journey he's the lead guitarist.
And "being mean" is hardly applicable: I mean, Van Morrison is a grumpy old **** but you can't put him in with Varg or Gary Glitter. The OP is not talking about people being not nice, he's talking about them being involved in or belonging to organisations or espousing ideas seen as inherently racist, hating or the like: your neo-Nazis, KKK and the like, or someone who's convicted or, I guess, accused of a pretty heinous crime like paedophilia.

None of us are perfect (except me, of course!)

and to expect the musicians we admire to be so is silly. Everyone will have their flaws but it's when it gets to serious levels I believe the OP is posing the question for.

Neal Schon is an adulterer and a douche. Hes a hell of a guitarist in the pop vein but a total loser in life.

Trollheart · 04-16-2013, 05:07 PM

As I said, no-one's perfect. Jerry Lee Lewis was a bloody borderline paedo, for god's sake! But nobody refuses to listen to his music. Glitter, on the other hand...

People can do things you deplore, disagree with, think are shameful but again --- not meaning to speak for the OP here but I think this is what is meant --- we're talking about serious crimes and racist-style views; perhaps not even views, as everyone's entitled to theirs. More an overt display of such, like, I dont know, flying swastikas at their gigs or simulating child porn on stage (I'm reaching here: I don't support/know of any artistes who do anything like this)...

edwardc77 · 04-16-2013, 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Trollheart

As I said, no-one's perfect. Jerry Lee Lewis was a bloody borderline paedo, for god's sake! But nobody refuses to listen to his music. Glitter, on the other hand...

People can do things you deplore, disagree with, think are shameful but again --- not meaning to speak for the OP here but I think this is what is meant --- we're talking about serious crimes and racist-style views; perhaps not even views, as everyone's entitled to theirs. More an overt display of such, like, I dont know, flying swastikas at their gigs or simulating child porn on stage (I'm reaching here: I don't support/know of any artistes who do anything like this)...

Yes,you got my point more or less,for example I have mixed feelings for Jimmy Page,he looks like a cool humble guy and I love Led Zeppelin...but him having sex with a 14 year old when he was almost 30 is quite disturbing.

scleaves · 04-18-2013, 05:04 PM

To the original post, I would probably think about it every once in awhile while listening to their music, but I would still listen to the music. It may be a double-standard, but everyone makes them and life is full of them.

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scleaves Music Addict Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Illinois, USA Posts: 76	To the original post, I would probably think about it every once in awhile while listening to their music, but I would still listen to the music. It may be a double-standard, but everyone makes them and life is full of them.