Jimi Hendrix's Guitar Playing Criticized in Article

blastingas10 · 01-14-2013, 02:43 PM

Haha wow. What a pretentious *******. This guy is criticizing Hendrix? By the sounds of it, he couldn't write a song as good as Hendrix in his wildest dreams.

Franco Pepe Kalle · 01-14-2013, 02:51 PM

Good point Blastings. Regardless Hendrix was one rare talent.

Euronomus · 01-14-2013, 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by blastingas10

Haha wow. What a pretentious *******. This guy is criticizing Hendrix? By the sounds of it, he couldn't write a song as good as Hendrix in his wildest dreams.

This is a horrible argument and is one of my biggest pet peeves. Lacking talent in one art form has no bearing on a persons ability to asses another's work. If this argument had any validity the only people who could hold any views on music would be people who are good musicians. If someone was praising Hendrix would you say "what do you, know you can't write a good song"? Of course not, but somehow people seem to think this is a viable counter-argument to criticism of their favorite artist's.

Bloozcrooz · 01-14-2013, 03:49 PM

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This is a horrible argument and is one of my biggest pet peeves. Lacking talent in one art form has no bearing on a persons ability to asses another's work. If this argument had any validity the only people who could hold any views on music would be people who are good musicians. If someone was praising Hendrix would you say "what do you, know you can't write a good song"? Of course not, but somehow people seem to think this is a viable counter-argument to criticism of their favorite artist's.

Ok I wasn't even going to acknowledge this thread cause the main topic is just laughable and absurd. However the above mentioned is one almost as ridculous imo. How in the hell could someone with no talent in a certain area of life be more inclined to tell someone who does, anything about their profession? You think as a musician I'm going to listen to some doosh who cant play or sing a notegive me advice over someone who can and is an accomplished musician? Uhh no..thats effin retarded dude if you ask me and I just dont see the logic in it.

Euronomus · 01-14-2013, 05:19 PM

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You think as a musician I'm going to listen to some doosh who cant play or sing a note give me advice over someone who can and is an accomplished musician? Uhh no..thats effin retarded dude if you ask me and I just dont see the logic in it.

What you are positing is a completely separate scenario than what's occurring here, of course if you're looking for constructive criticism and suggestions while creating a piece-a person who knows nothing about music would be the worst person to ask.

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But if he has such a keen ear for talent in other people's musi why doesn't he aplly the high standards to his own music. If he expects Jimi to be flawless why isn't he flawless? That is what I was getting at, I really don't think he room to talk bad about Jimi Hendrix without implicating himself into the same type of ridicule. He might be a better critic because he's more brazen in who and what he's tackling, still I don't think he has room to speak based on the level of his own musicianmanship.

Art is meant to be experienced on a non-technical and more subjective level, it's about experiencing something and not about how somethings done. We all have the ability to absorb a piece of art and come to a conclusion about how effective it is. Yes a knowledge of music theory can enhance enjoyment and alter your perspective on others work. That doesn't mean your opinion is somehow better or the lack of that knowledge invalidates another's opinion.

mr dave · 01-19-2013, 07:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Bloozcrooz

Ok I wasn't even going to acknowledge this thread cause the main topic is just laughable and absurd. However the above mentioned is one almost as ridculous imo. How in the hell could someone with no talent in a certain area of life be more inclined to tell someone who does, anything about their profession? You think as a musician I'm going to listen to some doosh who cant play or sing a notegive me advice over someone who can and is an accomplished musician? Uhh no..thats effin retarded dude if you ask me and I just dont see the logic in it.

So should this forum ban anyone who isn't a musician from commenting about music?

Bloozcrooz · 01-19-2013, 12:37 PM

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So should this forum ban anyone who isn't a musician from commenting about music?

No but why would I let someone tell me how to compose a piece of music who cant play, sing, or write? Thats what I thought he meant by that originaly. Having an opinion on whether or not you like a piece of music is something completly different. Telling me how or trying to give me advice on what I should do...well you could do that too. However it would just go in one ear and out the other. Now if you knew what you were talking about and were a respected musician it would carry more weight than someone who didn't. I think the same could be said for any proffession.

Neapolitan · 01-14-2013, 04:20 PM

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^Sounds like canned pop bull**** to me.^

While I'm a pretty open-minded person, I can't help but think his trampling on the popular opinion may be an attempt at getting some views on the net. Which seems to be working for now, and will probably backfire on him at some point.

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Originally Posted by Euronomus

This is a horrible argument and is one of my biggest pet peeves. Lacking talent in one art form has no bearing on a persons ability to asses another's work. If this argument had any validity the only people who could hold any views on music would be people who are good musicians. If someone was praising Hendrix would you say "what do you, know you can't write a good song"? Of course not, but somehow people seem to think this is a viable counter-argument to criticism of their favorite artist's.

But if he has such a keen ear for talent in other people's musi why doesn't he aplly the high standards to his own music. If he expects Jimi to be flawless why isn't he flawless? That is what I was getting at, I really don't think he room to talk bad about Jimi Hendrix without implicating himself into the same type of ridicule. He might be a better critic because he's more brazen in who and what he's tackling, still I don't think he has room to speak based on the level of his own musicianmanship.

Purple Haze, from reading Marcus Singletary's article maybe he missed the point of the song. Jimi was an avid reader of Sci-fi and the song is based on a paperbook he read. To me, Jimi bridge the gap between two art forms (fantasy and music) which is often done in Prog and Metal. So in that sense Hendrix was an innovator (or one of many innavators).

Mojo · 01-14-2013, 04:47 PM

I adore Jimi Hendrix.

But why shouldn't anyone criticise him? Criticise away.

blastingas10 · 01-14-2013, 05:49 PM

Well of course anyone has the right to criticize whatever they want, he's entitled to his opinion. And my opinion, after listening to his music, is that his opinion isn't worth ****. It's just rude and foolish. It would be different if he were a musician of very high caliber and respect, but he's not.

Anytime I criticize someone I always remind myself that I don't have much room to speak. I think this guy should do the same.

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blastingas10 Music Addict Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 2,126	Haha wow. What a pretentious *******. This guy is criticizing Hendrix? By the sounds of it, he couldn't write a song as good as Hendrix in his wildest dreams.

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blastingas10 Music Addict Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 2,126	Well of course anyone has the right to criticize whatever they want, he's entitled to his opinion. And my opinion, after listening to his music, is that his opinion isn't worth ****. It's just rude and foolish. It would be different if he were a musician of very high caliber and respect, but he's not. Anytime I criticize someone I always remind myself that I don't have much room to speak. I think this guy should do the same.