The Music Industry Organism

John1034 · 12-21-2012, 12:48 AM

See Attachment Below...

I'm am doing a study on the overall body structure of the music business from the songwriter/artist's perspective and would appreciate some feedback from any experts, executives, college majors, etc. This is a very rough draft that I've put together in the last few days citing Passman's book and Wikipedia mostly. If you have knowledge of the industry please post any changes I should make and/or any major players I might have missed. I think I got most of them in there. I'm still trying to figure out where the unions fit in (SAG-AFTRA and AFM).

Basically what I'm trying to do here is plot a person who is both songwriter and artist as the center of the universe. From their angle, I'm graphing the relationship between them and the rest of the players in the industry as the product moves from creator to consumer. Thank you all very much for your help.

wiggums · 12-21-2012, 12:55 AM

I'm not an expert on anything like this, but what you're doing sounds very interesting.

Once done, it might be interesting to make another one for the music industry before the digital age. Before, artists made all their money from record sales, and the tours were more of an advert for the record. Now it's switched, and the record is just an encouragement for the tour and the artists make their salary on that. Seeing those contrast might make for a more comprehensive work to look at once your finished.

Good luck!

John1034 · 12-21-2012, 06:51 PM

Amen brother. Gracias...

Trollheart · 12-24-2012, 04:33 PM

If you can find him, speak to Mr Dave, whose father was in the business. He may be able to help you. Also try posting (not the same thread, that's against the rules) in the songwriters' section and the musical instruments section, you may get more feedback there. Best of luck.

And Happy Christmas!

John1034 · 12-27-2012, 02:04 PM

After further research I've made some modifications. I've included trade unions and trade associations and made some other corrections. I'm not sure the hierarchical style tree chart can accurately capture the business but that's the one I'm using because I just want a very simple view, the simplest. Anyone's two cents would be appreciated.

John1034 · 12-30-2012, 11:53 AM

Bump. Anyone?

Face · 12-30-2012, 03:02 PM

Is it right that everything always goes through a manager/lawyer first?

**Scarlett O'Hara** · 12-30-2012, 03:08 PM

I read the title as music industry orgasm. I am now disappointed.

Face · 12-30-2012, 03:17 PM

The music industry orgasm? How the hell would that work?

I suppose that's why you clicked...

John1034 · 12-30-2012, 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Face

Is it right that everything always goes through a manager/lawyer first?

Well, I think it is if the songwriter/artist is very successful... that's the model I'm going for. The songwriter/artist would have his lawyer look over each contract before establishing a relationship with the rest.

12-21-2012, 12:48 AM	#1 (permalink)
John1034 Groupie Join Date: Dec 2012 Posts: 10	The Music Industry Organism See Attachment Below... I'm am doing a study on the overall body structure of the music business from the songwriter/artist's perspective and would appreciate some feedback from any experts, executives, college majors, etc. This is a very rough draft that I've put together in the last few days citing Passman's book and Wikipedia mostly. If you have knowledge of the industry please post any changes I should make and/or any major players I might have missed. I think I got most of them in there. I'm still trying to figure out where the unions fit in (SAG-AFTRA and AFM). Basically what I'm trying to do here is plot a person who is both songwriter and artist as the center of the universe. From their angle, I'm graphing the relationship between them and the rest of the players in the industry as the product moves from creator to consumer. Thank you all very much for your help. Attached Thumbnails

12-21-2012, 12:55 AM	#2 (permalink)
wiggums A Sarcastic Joyful Sound Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: Montana Posts: 174	I'm not an expert on anything like this, but what you're doing sounds very interesting. Once done, it might be interesting to make another one for the music industry before the digital age. Before, artists made all their money from record sales, and the tours were more of an advert for the record. Now it's switched, and the record is just an encouragement for the tour and the artists make their salary on that. Seeing those contrast might make for a more comprehensive work to look at once your finished. Good luck! __________________

12-24-2012, 04:33 PM	#4 (permalink)
Trollheart Born to be mild Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 404 Not Found Posts: 26,992	If you can find him, speak to Mr Dave, whose father was in the business. He may be able to help you. Also try posting (not the same thread, that's against the rules) in the songwriters' section and the musical instruments section, you may get more feedback there. Best of luck. And Happy Christmas! __________________ Trollheart: Signature-free since April 2018

12-27-2012, 02:04 PM	#5 (permalink)
John1034 Groupie Join Date: Dec 2012 Posts: 10	After further research I've made some modifications. I've included trade unions and trade associations and made some other corrections. I'm not sure the hierarchical style tree chart can accurately capture the business but that's the one I'm using because I just want a very simple view, the simplest. Anyone's two cents would be appreciated. Attached Thumbnails

12-30-2012, 03:08 PM	#8 (permalink)
Scarlett O'Hara Make it so Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 6,181	I read the title as music industry orgasm. I am now disappointed. __________________ "Elph is truly an enfant terrible of the forum, bless and curse him" - Marie, Queen of Thots

12-21-2012, 06:51 PM	#3 (permalink)
John1034 Groupie Join Date: Dec 2012 Posts: 10	Amen brother. Gracias...

12-30-2012, 11:53 AM	#6 (permalink)
John1034 Groupie Join Date: Dec 2012 Posts: 10	Bump. Anyone?

12-30-2012, 03:02 PM	#7 (permalink)
Face Music Addict Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: UK Posts: 306	Is it right that everything always goes through a manager/lawyer first?

12-30-2012, 03:17 PM	#9 (permalink)
Face Music Addict Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: UK Posts: 306	The music industry orgasm? How the hell would that work? I suppose that's why you clicked...