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moore.methews 01-22-2013 11:42 PM

I respect Niel Diamond and Roger waters as they are the legends. But as emerging legends i really appreciate Eric Church, Jason Aldean and Carri Underwood. Three of them are my best country music singers. Taylor swift is good but she needs more time to prove herself.

Dulce 11-07-2013 05:29 AM

i mutually respect dexter holland, sameer gadhia, jesse r., kurt cobian, m.j., selena q., and many others. i may be just a fan and all but what counts the most is their humbleness. dunno, it's like 4:29 AM.

Mr. Charlie 11-07-2013 07:04 AM

Artists who don't appear in adverts. Artists who, if they hold the rights, don't allow their music to be used in adverts. Artists who turn down the chat show couch.

djchameleon 11-07-2013 07:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Charlie (Post 1381675)
Artists who don't appear in adverts. Artists who, if they hold the rights, don't allow their music to be used in adverts. Artists who turn down the chat show couch.

that leaves like two people.

Mr. Charlie 11-07-2013 07:45 AM

Leaves a few flapping fish in a shrinking puddle of mud. Yeah.

djchameleon 11-07-2013 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Charlie (Post 1381681)
Leaves a few flapping fish in a shrinking puddle of mud. Yeah.

Why do you hold them to such a high standard? What's so wrong with promoting their music? Do you not want them to have more fans and to make money? You want them to stay struggling artists forever!

Mr. Charlie 11-07-2013 08:50 AM

I was thinking of established artists. They've made it big, they've made money, no need to sell their soul by doing adverts. And on the couch on those talk shows, they aren't proper interviews, they aren't talking about their art, their talking about themselves and their life, soaking up the sycophantism and propogating celebrity culture.

Sansa Stark 11-07-2013 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Charlie (Post 1381675)
Artists who don't appear in adverts. Artists who, if they hold the rights, don't allow their music to be used in adverts. Artists who turn down the chat show couch.

Pretentious classist bull**** bye

As for me, Alig Fodder, he's not really famous~~~ but Family Fodder are p well known in post punk. I messaged him once on myspace years ago to ask if he could clarify a lyric in Cold Wars Unchained Ballad and I couldn't figure out, and he actually wrote back to me several times telling me when he got home from Greece he'd look through his old things for me and find the lyric. It was awesome.

Mr. Charlie 11-07-2013 09:15 AM

Rude!

Sansa Stark 11-07-2013 09:20 AM

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Mr. Charlie 11-07-2013 09:30 AM

Sorry my insignificant opinion riled you so. It's just thoughts.

Sansa Stark 11-07-2013 09:31 AM

yeah i'm clearly riled if i take two seconds to post a one sentence response and a gif.

butthead aka 216 11-07-2013 09:34 AM

Oh the irony lol


On topic I dunno I don't really think of artists a lot outside of music

Mr. Charlie 11-07-2013 09:36 AM

Do you like adverts and talk shows?

Sansa Stark 11-07-2013 09:36 AM

do you know how creepy it is that you're so obsessed with me and never stop riding my dick?

Mr. Charlie 11-07-2013 09:39 AM

Haha. Who?

Sansa Stark 11-07-2013 09:40 AM

Haha not you, you posted seconds before I did.

Gollyard 11-07-2013 11:31 AM

Mark Sixma - makes music because he loves it and not because of the money

djchameleon 11-07-2013 06:09 PM

idk why people get all pretentious about musicians making money. You can survive in the real world if you aren't making money and it's a bonus to be making money doing something that you love. So what if they are already established and have made tons of money. If they can still make more why knock them for it?

people love to side with the image of a struggling artist that is so passionate about his craft but that same artist is barely getting by and probably starving/missing a few meals.

Mr. Charlie 11-07-2013 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by djchameleon (Post 1382045)
idk why people get all pretentious about musicians making money. You can survive in the real world if you aren't making money and it's a bonus to be making money doing something that you love. So what if they are already established and have made tons of money. If they can still make more why knock them for it?

I don't mind them making money from their art, from their talent - that makes people happy. But when they start selling cars and razors and home insurance, that makes people unhappy. Adverts are nothing but pervasive messages to consume, and that encourages dissatisfaction because we aren't content when we want. Adverts want us to feel unhappy, are designed to create the illusion that the hole in our lives, a hole they calculatingly help create, can be filled by buying their product.

I'll try not to turn this into a philosophical, ranting essay but adverts are a blight and a cancer on our species. They rob us of our heritage, rob us of our language, rob us of our connection to the planet and to nature, to reality, they hijack idols that stood for something good - for instance Che Guevara is used to sell Mercedes, Gandhi is used to sell Apple computers. Those were great men who stood for ideals, for important ideas like freedom and protest, their power should be used to inspire greatness, not reduced to selling the s**t that's being manufactured out of the bones of a dying planet. 'The best a man can get' is used to sell gillette razors, what does that do to our language, how low a bar does that set for mankind? Adverts are evil.

Perhaps Bill Hicks says it better than I ever can. Now I don't want people killing themsleves like he suggests, but his passion and strong feeling, it rings true in my core:


Mr. Charlie 11-08-2013 10:49 AM

To get this thread back on track after it was so rudely interrupted by Mr. Charlie the twat, I'll say Robert Plant is an artist who I have a great deal of respect and admiration for. He comes across as very humble and refuses to live on past glories, quite something considering just how glorious they were.

Sansa Stark 11-08-2013 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by djchameleon (Post 1382045)
idk why people get all pretentious about musicians making money. You can survive in the real world if you aren't making money and it's a bonus to be making money doing something that you love. So what if they are already established and have made tons of money. If they can still make more why knock them for it?

people love to side with the image of a struggling artist that is so passionate about his craft but that same artist is barely getting by and probably starving/missing a few meals.

ding ding ding

Key 11-08-2013 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by djchameleon (Post 1382045)
idk why people get all pretentious about musicians making money. You can survive in the real world if you aren't making money and it's a bonus to be making money doing something that you love. So what if they are already established and have made tons of money. If they can still make more why knock them for it?

people love to side with the image of a struggling artist that is so passionate about his craft but that same artist is barely getting by and probably starving/missing a few meals.

Exactly my feel about it. Same goes with people who make money from making videos for Youtube, or anything like that. I see no problem with someone making money for doing something they like to do, I just would hate to see those same people turn into someone they're not because of the money they make.

Lord Larehip 11-08-2013 11:44 AM

I admire George Harrison because once he was in some city to do a show and when he showed up at his hotel, a bunch of fans were already in the lobby and asked him for a private show. George replied that he didn't have a guitar at the moment but someone presented him with one so he sat down and took requests. After about a half-hour he excused himself because he had to get ready for the show. And his interviewon Dick Cavett really was an interview and he talked about stuff that meant something and not just bulls-hitting.

I dislike people who can afford to be generous but aren't. George always seemed to know that he could and so he was.

I've never met Tom Waits but he seems like a cool cat. He doesn't do endorsements and Les Claypool said he wouldn't take money for services he provided even when he was entitled.

George Martin was like that. He never made a penny off the Beatles. He was on a fixed salary from EMI during the Beatle years. When the band offered to cut him in, he declined the offer. He could have made millions but it was more important to him that nobody be able to say that he rode on their coattails.

My brother's band once opened for Rick Wakeman. About 3 hours before the show started, Rick showed up and helped people move equipment and talked with people--anybody. He said Wakeman was very witty and funny and cracked a lot of jokes. People would talk about getting screwed by venue owners and stuff like that and he would offer advice. The only bragging he did was about his son who also plays keyboard and looks like Rick did back in the 70s.

My brother's band also opened for BTO once and after their set, Randy Bachman and C.F. Turner called them over and told them how much they enjoyed their set.

He didn't care for Robin Trower who didn't want anybody backstage while he was playing and so my brother's band had to stand in an alley in the winter because, being the kicker band, they had no seats.

Once I played on a street corner with Dickie Betts of the Allman Bros. who seemed like a nice enough guy but I noticed he had no southern accent and when I played "Melissa" he didn't know it. Later, I went to a CD release party for another band I know and while I was there checked out Dickie Betts' photo on my phone because I didn't think that guy looked much like him as I remembered him. Not even close. Later, I walked by that same corner and this guy had a guitar case laying there brimming with cash and people lined up to get their pictures taken with him because the dopes all thought he was Dickey Betts. I made one lousy stinking dollar while I was busking there and this dude was no better than I was and yet tricked people into thinking he was Dickey Betts and must have had $200 easy.

Ninetales 11-08-2013 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Charlie (Post 1381675)
Artists who don't appear in adverts. Artists who, if they hold the rights, don't allow their music to be used in adverts.

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I'll say Robert Plant is an artist who I have a great deal of respect and admiration for.


hmmmmmmmmmmmm

Mr. Charlie 11-08-2013 11:51 AM

NOOOOO!

That greedy bastard. I'm taking the shrine I built down. Burning all his albums.

Joking aside, I am pretty gutted by that. :(

Robert Plant, I put you at no. 1 in this video of cocks:



And no. 1 in this video too. Cock:


Lord Larehip 11-08-2013 12:05 PM

I forgot to mention that my sister once booked all the bands that played at her college theater. She got to meet them all. She booked the Japanese drum troupe Kodo whom she said were the coolest people she'd ever met. And the audience response (I was there, of course) was so great that she booked them again about a year later. She said they were the sweetest people and it was a genuine joy to meet them.

She said Johnny Cash was really nice and friendly. At one point, he was in his dressing room with June and my sister knocked on the door to check on them and make sure they had everything they needed. Johnny said, "Hey, you come on in here, little lady!" And he introduced her to June who seemed kind of reserved and quiet but nice enough. But everybody liked them. A few months later, they were both dead.

She hated the Chenille Sisters who were all prima donna bitches who demanded fruit baskets in their dressing rooms and then threw them in the waste baskets without opening them. And then claimed they were shorted $10 bucks and threatened legal action over it. My sister gave them $10 out of her own pocket to shut them up. She got them back though because my older brother was hosting a folk and blues show up in the thumb and she sent him an email telling him not to hire them if they try to book. Sure enough, they tried to book and my brother said no.

Another guy she hated was Neil Diamond. He's just a prick. Didn't want to talk to anybody and even threatened to cancel if any of the staff watched him while he rehearsed. They were not to look at him at all but simply go about their business. "Nobody gets a free show," he said.


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