Value of music dropping?

Extorris · 10-31-2012, 10:27 PM

As long as humanity exists, music will never deplete in value.

Now, the context of 'value' is up for debate. Sentimental and/or tangibility. Orrin has a point.

With technology becoming more readily available, it is much easier to come by creation and production/mastering software. With piracy on the rise, artists lose out on cash from their music, but retain royalties. However, with adblockers, they lost out on some of those royalties they gain on YouTube and other social media websites.

The seminar the OP went to sounds like a load of horse crap. All I see is some pretentious guy wearing a black turtleneck with a giant headset preaching pseudo sanctimonious platitudes to a bunch of gullible people (no offense to the OP). The value of music will never ever die. All it can do is evolve, and as humanity has clearly demonstrated - we will adapt.

Just my two cents..

Trollheart · 11-01-2012, 06:20 AM

Exactly right. Anyway, who decides the value of music? If music gives you pleasure, then it has value to you. That's unlikely to change (the artistes/genre might) throughout your life. If music affects you, moves you, inspires you, it probably always will; if it never did then it may never do. Trying to qualify the value of music is like trying to qualify the value of religion, or sport, or television, or anything else that can matter in people's lives. Whether some Suit thinks is has value or not is entirely and completely irrelevant, and for him to try to make out he's the authority on the subject is another word ending in -ant, but beginning in arrog.

Music will always have value, as a medium for pleasure, relaxation, reflection, to aid sleep, to dance to, to inspire and incite political/social debate, and to help express our feelings in a way we often can't or aren't comfortable with. Music will be here, and being listened to, long after we all have turned to dust. Even now, it's heading out to space aboard a probe, carrying some of mankind's greatest music beyond our solar system and out of the galaxy.

In the end, music may very well be the last imprint we leave on this life, and will remain a signpost for future civilisations to what we were, what we did, what we achieved and how we interpreted the world around us.

Franco Pepe Kalle · 11-02-2012, 08:39 AM

Here is my take on this: There has always been bad music. Even in the 1970s, 1980s, 1990s, and 2000s, there were some awful records however the difference between then and now is that there are more awful records than in the past. Like I always said, music especially Western Music were at its best from the 1970s up to mid 2000s before all the Lady Gaga wannabes and T-Pain copycatting started. The reason why the music business is in decline has nothing to do how many artists are there but what is the music today. Now the music these days especially if you want to popular mainstream person is to copy some rock group, Lady gaga or T-Pain (in the sense of Autotune). Copycatting has become a bigger thing now than it was in the past. Back then you knew when it was Prince, Ac/Dc, Madonna, Michael Jackson, Van Helen. You knew how those artists sounded. Now especially in pop music, there is very little to no more diversity. If you want great music today, underground is the best solution 75 percent of the time.

Isbjørn · 11-02-2012, 11:26 AM

Music is easier available now than before, so what? Isn't that a good thing? You don't have to go to the store and ask for an album, you can just buy the MP3 online!

Franco Pepe Kalle · 11-02-2012, 11:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Briks

Music is easier available now than before, so what? Isn't that a good thing? You don't have to go to the store and ask for an album, you can just buy the MP3 online!

Oh no, I was speaking on the music itself. I was not speaking about access of getting music.

Isbjørn · 11-02-2012, 11:45 AM

I replied to the first post.

11-01-2012, 06:20 AM	#12 (permalink)
Trollheart Born to be mild Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 404 Not Found Posts: 26,994	Exactly right. Anyway, who decides the value of music? If music gives you pleasure, then it has value to you. That's unlikely to change (the artistes/genre might) throughout your life. If music affects you, moves you, inspires you, it probably always will; if it never did then it may never do. Trying to qualify the value of music is like trying to qualify the value of religion, or sport, or television, or anything else that can matter in people's lives. Whether some Suit thinks is has value or not is entirely and completely irrelevant, and for him to try to make out he's the authority on the subject is another word ending in -ant, but beginning in arrog. Music will always have value, as a medium for pleasure, relaxation, reflection, to aid sleep, to dance to, to inspire and incite political/social debate, and to help express our feelings in a way we often can't or aren't comfortable with. Music will be here, and being listened to, long after we all have turned to dust. Even now, it's heading out to space aboard a probe, carrying some of mankind's greatest music beyond our solar system and out of the galaxy. In the end, music may very well be the last imprint we leave on this life, and will remain a signpost for future civilisations to what we were, what we did, what we achieved and how we interpreted the world around us. __________________ Trollheart: Signature-free since April 2018

11-02-2012, 08:39 AM	#13 (permalink)
Franco Pepe Kalle Mwana Nzala Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Shakopee, Minnesota Posts: 627	Here is my take on this: There has always been bad music. Even in the 1970s, 1980s, 1990s, and 2000s, there were some awful records however the difference between then and now is that there are more awful records than in the past. Like I always said, music especially Western Music were at its best from the 1970s up to mid 2000s before all the Lady Gaga wannabes and T-Pain copycatting started. The reason why the music business is in decline has nothing to do how many artists are there but what is the music today. Now the music these days especially if you want to popular mainstream person is to copy some rock group, Lady gaga or T-Pain (in the sense of Autotune). Copycatting has become a bigger thing now than it was in the past. Back then you knew when it was Prince, Ac/Dc, Madonna, Michael Jackson, Van Helen. You knew how those artists sounded. Now especially in pop music, there is very little to no more diversity. If you want great music today, underground is the best solution 75 percent of the time. __________________ The problem with Franco Pepe Kalle is that he is a unpredictable character. There is surprising info about this man. You think he only likes Franco and Pepe Kalle but when you find out that he hears other artists, you are shock. Girls are the sexy thing that God created. Important to notice FPK.

11-02-2012, 11:26 AM	#14 (permalink)
Isbjørn cooler commie than elph Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: In a hole, help Posts: 2,811	Music is easier available now than before, so what? Isn't that a good thing? You don't have to go to the store and ask for an album, you can just buy the MP3 online! __________________ fast(ml) Hear me play the guitar Look, mom! I got a journal

11-02-2012, 11:45 AM	#16 (permalink)
Isbjørn cooler commie than elph Join Date: Sep 2012 Location: In a hole, help Posts: 2,811	I replied to the first post. __________________ fast(ml) Hear me play the guitar Look, mom! I got a journal

10-31-2012, 10:27 PM	#11 (permalink)
Extorris Groupie Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: Escondido Posts: 11	As long as humanity exists, music will never deplete in value. Now, the context of 'value' is up for debate. Sentimental and/or tangibility. Orrin has a point. With technology becoming more readily available, it is much easier to come by creation and production/mastering software. With piracy on the rise, artists lose out on cash from their music, but retain royalties. However, with adblockers, they lost out on some of those royalties they gain on YouTube and other social media websites. The seminar the OP went to sounds like a load of horse crap. All I see is some pretentious guy wearing a black turtleneck with a giant headset preaching pseudo sanctimonious platitudes to a bunch of gullible people (no offense to the OP). The value of music will never ever die. All it can do is evolve, and as humanity has clearly demonstrated - we will adapt. Just my two cents..