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lacunacoilfan 10-08-2012 02:01 PM

How will pop music die out?
 
How will music like Justin Bieber, Lady Gaga, Katy perry finally die out? I asked this by google and I got results of people are comparing it to the disco craze, and such. A better question is., Do you think it will ever die out?

SATCHMO 10-08-2012 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by lacunacoilfan (Post 1238678)
How will music like Justin Bieber, Lady Gaga, Katy perry finally die out? I asked this by google and I got results of people are comparing it to the disco craze, and such. A better question is., Do you think it will ever die out?

I'm guessing you're quite young.

CanwllCorfe 10-08-2012 02:10 PM

Pop music won't ever die out, it will just evolve.

lacunacoilfan 10-08-2012 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by satchmo (Post 1238679)
i'm guessing you're quite young.

21 and growing sick of this crappy music.

Rock N' Roll Clown 10-08-2012 02:38 PM

I hate how people start hating music only due to their preconceptions. I hate it when I read something like: "Lady Gaga is crap" written by someone who "knows music". Lady Gaga is one of the most talented musicians today. Of course there are many bad artists today, but when there haven't been? The truth is that 70% of the music always was, is, and will ever be crap. We now listen to old songs and artists, but we listen only to the best of them, simply because the bad was buried in the history. And on the other side, today we hear every new song played on the radio or tv many times, and most of them are bad really, but it always have been like this. There are many good pop artists today: Bruno Mars, Demi Lovato, Adele, Britney Spears, Christina Aguilera, Nelly Furtado, Alicia Keys, R. Kelly, Kanye West.

SATCHMO 10-08-2012 02:39 PM

So you're guessing that given enough time crappy music will just go away? That there won't be some new pint-sized twerp to give tween-aged girls a thrill once Justin Bieber finally passes through the gauntlet of puberty?

LoathsomePete 10-08-2012 02:42 PM

The artists mention will die out when their replacement counter-parts arrive on the scene in the next 5-10 years. Very few pop stars actually thrive in their post-success world, and I can't help but think Justin Bieber is destined to become the new Aaron Carter by 2017. I mean besides diehards, is anybody actually thinking about Debbie Gibson or Tiffany in this day and age?

Zer0 10-08-2012 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by LoathsomePete (Post 1238696)
I can't help but think Justin Bieber is destined to become the new Aaron Carter by 2017.

That could be sooner than expected.


Rock N' Roll Clown 10-08-2012 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by SATCHMO (Post 1238695)
So you're guessing that given enough time crappy music will just go away? That there won't be some new pint-sized twerp to give tween-aged girls a thrill once Justin Bieber finally passes through the gauntlet of puberty?

Of course there will be, but wasn't it like this back in the 80s, too. People listened to rock bands like Kiss, Rainbow, and there was the idol of all teenage girls Michael Jackson. Of course they hated him. My point is that the time is the best indicator of everything, which is really good and memorable. There were thousands of classical composers 200 years ago, but today nobody haven't heard about the half of them, and the only ones that everybody has heard of are Beethoven, Mozart, Bach and maybe someone else. Don't you think they were actually the best.

Franco Pepe Kalle 10-08-2012 02:58 PM

We will have to wait and see. We will have to wait and see.

Zer0 10-08-2012 03:07 PM

We could be waiting for a long, long time. There's always going to be pop music because obviously some sort of music has to be the most popular. But as regards pop music continuing to be manufactured crap it just depends on how long the majors can stick to the business model of pedaling lowest common denominator rubbish. Maybe some day when the last record company collapses will this breed of pop music die out.

Besides if there was no pop music then there would be no alternative music either and things would just be boring.

Unknown Soldier 10-08-2012 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by lacunacoilfan (Post 1238678)
How will music like Justin Bieber, Lady Gaga, Katy perry finally die out? I asked this by google and I got results of people are comparing it to the disco craze, and such. A better question is., Do you think it will ever die out?

The same crappy music that is around today has always been around, just different artists and different fads.

Vladcasm1 10-08-2012 03:41 PM

I don't think pop music will die out any time soon. Pop music will continue to exist as long as there are people willing to buy it.

If music like Justin Beiber, Ke$ha and Lady Gaga stops selling at some point, the pop industry will only have to reinvent itself (probably to a different demographic) to continue making a profit. That's why pop music sounds different every decade. People get tired of current pop music, so the industry attempts to "freshen" it up.



Just my two cents :)

duga 10-08-2012 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Zer0 (Post 1238711)
We could be waiting for a long, long time. There's always going to be pop music because obviously some sort of music has to be the most popular.

This.

It bothers me that people have started identifying "pop" as a very specific music genre. It's not. It's whatever is popular. Rock was pop. Disco was pop. Grunge turned pop. That's why bands like Creed and Bush existed. In Norway I'm sure there was a time Black Metal could be considered pop. So yeah, there will always be pop.

Zer0 10-08-2012 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by duga (Post 1238725)
This.

It bothers me that people have started identifying "pop" as a very specific music genre. It's not. It's whatever is popular. Rock was pop. Disco was pop. Grunge turned pop. That's why bands like Creed and Bush existed. In Norway I'm sure there was a time Black Metal could be considered pop. So yeah, there will always be pop.

Reverend Bizarre hit number one in the Finnish singles chart and they're a fucking doom metal band, and they're not the only metal band to have done that in Finland. Essentially this makes them pop bands.

bob. 10-08-2012 04:43 PM

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Originally Posted by LoathsomePete (Post 1238696)
I mean besides diehards, is anybody actually thinking about Debbie Gibson or Tiffany in this day and age?

Debbie Gibson starred in the classic movie Mega Shark Vs. Giant Octopus...personally i feel that he monologue at the end was in fact Oscar worthy but that bitch Meryl Streep just couldn't let go


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Originally Posted by Vladcasm1 (Post 1238724)
I don't think pop music will die out any time soon. Pop music will continue to exist as long as there are people willing to buy it.

If music like Justin Beiber, Ke$ha and Lady Gaga stops selling at some point, the pop industry will only have to reinvent itself (probably to a different demographic) to continue making a profit. That's why pop music sounds different every decade. People get tired of current pop music, so the industry attempts to "freshen" it up.



Just my two cents :)

i don't know man....really its all just the same regurgitated sound....this is why so many "older" pop stars are constantly accusing the newer, younger and often better stars of coping them

Trollheart 10-08-2012 05:53 PM

Jeez, gimme a chance, willya? I'm lockin' and loadin' as fast as I can! Can't be everywhere at once! Now, where is that Bieber guy playing....? :D:ar_15s:

Scarlett O'Hara 10-08-2012 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by LoathsomePete (Post 1238696)
The artists mention will die out when their replacement counter-parts arrive on the scene in the next 5-10 years. Very few pop stars actually thrive in their post-success world, and I can't help but think Justin Bieber is destined to become the new Aaron Carter by 2017. I mean besides diehards, is anybody actually thinking about Debbie Gibson or Tiffany in this day and age?

Let's face it, Britney Spears and Christina Agulira have been in the pop industry sucessfully for 14 years so far. I personally believe Lady Gaga has staying power because she has the ability to be innovative and trend setting. But I imagine a lot of people will disagree with me.

SATCHMO 10-08-2012 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Rock N' Roll Clown (Post 1238704)
Of course there will be, but wasn't it like this back in the 80s, too. People listened to rock bands like Kiss, Rainbow, and there was the idol of all teenage girls Michael Jackson. Of course they hated him. My point is that the time is the best indicator of everything, which is really good and memorable. There were thousands of classical composers 200 years ago, but today nobody haven't heard about the half of them, and the only ones that everybody has heard of are Beethoven, Mozart, Bach and maybe someone else. Don't you think they were actually the best.

I apologize, my post wasn't directed at you, but I do agree.

Isbjørn 10-09-2012 02:04 AM

Bad music is nothing new. There were bad music in the 60's too, but we don't hear much about it, you know. We hear about The Rolling Stones, The Beatles, and The Beach Boys. The bad music that is around now WILL eventually stop selling, but I don't know how the *firetruck* it got popular in the first place.

Scarlett O'Hara 10-09-2012 02:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Briks (Post 1238792)
Bad music is nothing new. There were bad music in the 60's too, but we don't hear much about it, you know. We hear about The Rolling Stones, The Beatles, and The Beach Boys. The bad music that is around now WILL eventually stop selling, but I don't know how the *firetruck* it got popular in the first place.

I find this quite ignorant, I mean not ALL popular music these days is rubbish or 'bad'. For these people who never stop going on about how "music these days is nothing compared to the old days" you make me want to vomit out my own brain. Seriously, get off your ass and actually look for some music. There are zillions of music forums and ways to find out about decent music in for ALL of the decades, it's just about making an effort. How about attending a local gig, using spotify or using last.FM as resources.

Norg 10-09-2012 03:24 AM

when the earth blows up

Trollheart 10-09-2012 04:44 AM

Two months and counting...

Rock N' Roll Clown 10-09-2012 05:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Vanilla (Post 1238744)
Let's face it, Britney Spears and Christina Agulira have been in the pop industry sucessfully for 14 years so far. I personally believe Lady Gaga has staying power because she has the ability to be innovative and trend setting. But I imagine a lot of people will disagree with me.

That's what I'm talking about. After 20 years nobody will remember kesha, nobody remembers her even now. People will remember Britney Spears, Christina Aguilera, Justin Timberlake (if he returns to music), and of course, Lady Gaga. She's the most unique pop musician since Prince in his first years.

duga 10-09-2012 07:43 AM

So are you talking about the average lifespan of an individual pop artist? Because that's hard to predict. These days your average radio fodder will be popular for a year or two and fade out. However, big names like Lady Gaga will probably endure for a very very long time.

Urban Hat€monger ? 10-09-2012 08:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Rock N' Roll Clown (Post 1238814)
That's what I'm talking about. After 20 years nobody will remember kesha, nobody remembers her even now.

I'm not so sure that's true.

My first exposure to music was to the acts in the charts in the mid 80s. I can still remember most of those acts that played then, both the successful ones that people still remember today and the ones that were either one hit wonders or novelty songs with no artistic merit whatsoever because that's the era of chart music I remember. Hell I talk to people my age some of whom have no interest in music and those acts are the ONLY ones they remember.

In 20 years time as long as there's still daytime local radio and a market for people not really that interested in music buying compilation albums with titles such as ' The Hits Of 20__(Insert Year Here) the likes of Kesha will live on.

lacunacoilfan 10-09-2012 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Zer0 (Post 1238702)
That could be sooner than expected.


Lady gaga puked on stage as well.

Gucci Little Piggy 10-09-2012 11:52 AM

Please tell me why Lady Gaga is better than all the other popular musicians nowadays. Show me her best song or something.

I mean, I know she's a damn good singer, but that's not enough to me. I want to hear a song by her that's actually a great track, even when not considering the vocals.

Also, pop music doesn't die, it just shapeshifts into something else.

Ben Butler 10-10-2012 03:50 PM

Pop music is too commercialised to die out. People aren't going to lose their interest in these kind of artists. It's just something that will constantly changed with the times, in line with popular culture and technology.

LuckyLovexoxoxxx 10-10-2012 10:43 PM

something better will come along

Neapolitan 10-10-2012 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Gucci Little Piggy (Post 1238905)
Please tell me why Lady Gaga is better than all the other popular musicians nowadays. Show me her best song or something.

I mean, I know she's a damn good singer, but that's not enough to me. I want to hear a song by her that's actually a great track, even when not considering the vocals.

Also, pop music doesn't die, it just shapeshifts into something else.

There is only one way to kill a shapeshifter... a silver dagger through the heart.

Isbjørn 10-11-2012 02:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Neapolitan (Post 1239268)
There is only one way to kill a shapeshifter... a silver dagger through the heart.

That made my day.

glastonelle 10-12-2012 08:10 AM

you know, this is probably not the answer you wanted great question-poser, and honestly i haven't been on here for so long that i'm clearing virtual cobwebs as i type, but i find pop music really fascinating and like someone said before, it evolves.

i guess i'm more open to shoddy dance top 40 stuff than most people, and i can totally understand you not liking it or not wanting to listen to it, but what is popular says a lot about a generation, and just in general, it's a really interesting thing if you ever wanted to look deeper into.

Face 10-12-2012 09:16 AM

It will always be short and catchy.

It will continue to be more about the artist being quirky/outlandish so that it can filter through to everyone and be famous/well known.

I think the obviously autotuned for effect will be faded out and be a period thing. Plus it looks like now all pop music is being dubstep-ised.

musicbanter22 10-12-2012 10:07 AM

When something as big as the Beatles or Dylan comes along and completely revolutionizes the genre.

Scarlett O'Hara 10-13-2012 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by musicbanter22 (Post 1239713)
When something as big as the Beatles or Dylan comes along and completely revolutionizes the genre.

But technically it would still be popular, hence pop music will still exist.

Isbjørn 10-13-2012 01:00 PM

Guys, The Beatles and The Kinks IS pop too, you know. Short songs, catchy choruses, so I don't really see the thing about the "revolution". Pop music is what it is.

Wuzzly 10-14-2012 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by lacunacoilfan (Post 1238678)
How will music like Justin Bieber, Lady Gaga, Katy perry finally die out? I asked this by google and I got results of people are comparing it to the disco craze, and such. A better question is., Do you think it will ever die out?

Are you talking about the genre pop or the term used to describe music as popular?

Assuming you mean the latter, nothing short of the human race going extinct is going to eliminate "popular" music. As long as music exists, there will always be music that is popular or at least more popular than others. But given the bands you've listed, I assume you mean the likes of electro-pop or dance-pop. In that case, I doubt that it will die out. It will likely just evolve.


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