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Old 09-13-2012, 09:28 AM   #31 (permalink)
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A thread by Balto? This entire thread is a joke.
Who the hell are you to judge a brand new member like that when you yourself are brand new? Are you seriously that quick to decide that Balto is to be dismissed?
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Old 09-13-2012, 10:10 AM   #32 (permalink)
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Old 09-15-2012, 04:42 AM   #33 (permalink)
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Why would any band want to be mainstream anyway? the pressure put on someone like carly rae jepson or any of those "artists" is unbeleivable. They wouldn't have any fun playing music what so ever. That stuff is a business, its about promotion and turn over...
my thought would be, be careful what you wish for
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Old 09-15-2012, 04:43 AM   #34 (permalink)
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Old 09-15-2012, 08:12 AM   #35 (permalink)
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If younger populations can be persuaded to listen to, even take a look into, rock and metal music, there is a chance that type of music could get a boost it has lost in the last decade. As Corey Taylor of Slipknot noted metal is losingg any attention of the mainstream media, that indeed is very real and scary.

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I think this attitude makes you sound really insecure in your tastes. Do you -really- want to listen to music that's been manufactured and marketed to little girls like you suggest? Consider it from the perspective of the musicians who chose to play metal... do you really think most of them want to be associated with 12-14 year old girls? Do you understand how creepy as hell that sounds.

Really though, consider the themes of most metal music... Aggression, Anger, Frustration, Rage, Contempt, they all relate to being outcasts from the mainstream of society. Now -you- as a 'fan' are complaining that they're not featured on some Miley Cyrus type Nickelodeon show? Really?

Also, Slipknot lost the attention of the mainstream once their Mr. Bungle gimmick got stale and people realized they only really had about 6 songs they kept rehashing over and over again.

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In the 80s Megadeth, Metallica, and Slayer were given a boost, and they still had a boost in the 90s.
This is also laughably wrong.
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Old 09-15-2012, 08:25 AM   #36 (permalink)
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Second!

When Rock turned too serious with both fans and bands, in short too self-conscious although with the quality to support it, it lost a lot of what made it big in The 80's in the first place. True, there were a lot of bands that made it in The 90's that were heavy, but that was mainly after Grunge turned into a sellable image, Pop was seen as a cheesy kids thing, and the industry wanted to look "Gen X". After the industry got back it's Pop Groove with The Spice Girls and all that, it connected with the Mainstream public after learning it's lesson not to deal with things that were not meant to be mainstream in the first place. (I still laugh when I remember major labels trying to pick up Industrial bands...HA HA HA HA HA...they did not know what to do with them!). the Early 2K's group of heavy bands that made it were only an after-effect before the gimmicks wore thin.

Hair Metal, for all of what one can say against it, was fun before the rot set in and the industry's want of more "Power Ballads" gave it a lesser image. It's exciting, and when done right, is catchy and fun. Yes, it's all image over song and all of that, but on the plus side, it hardly thought "Is this hip? Is this right for the critics? Will the College listeners like it? Will this be important to future generations?" as it wanted to just keep the show going.

You want Rock back in your Mainstream? That's the way, uh huh uh huh, it possibly will be done. Some musicians were born to be mainstream, and the image of a Hair Metal band is still a classic one, especially for this image over all time. Why not?

The only thing that it needs is someone that knows how to handle it, promote it, and MTV to return to focus on Music Videos once again.

This may be a nieve responce, but maybe there's something in it to spark some discussion.
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and MTV to return to focus on Music Videos once again.
Until youtube goes away why would they ever do this? What teenager today would sit through an afternoon of videos they don't really like in hopes their favourite eventually gets played rather than just loading up a website and only seeing what they want to watch when they want to watch it?
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Here's an example of what happens when you try to make metal more mainstream and palatable to a younger, more female audience...
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Until youtube goes away why would they ever do this? What teenager today would sit through an afternoon of videos they don't really like in hopes their favourite eventually gets played rather than just loading up a website and only seeing what they want to watch when they want to watch it?
I see your point 100 percent.

Somehow, the Retro side of my brian thinks that with the right promotion, there may be some kind of hope that MTV just might come back in a smaller way with more focus on Videos. It does not need to be teen focused anymore, but as there are those who still cry out for the network to get back to what it was known for (before they lost it with the Reality crap), there may be a way for the masses to sit on it's asses in front of the tube and watch.

It's not that simple, and it's true that the network seriously list it's cool back in the 90's, but somehow something may just work.

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Here's an example of what happens when you try to make metal more mainstream and palatable to a younger, more female audience...
Yeah, the Late 80's/Early 90's Sunset Strip look did go too far, but somehow we have to think more Sweet/"Ballroom Blitz" sounds kind with a little Visual Kei flair (I mean a LITTLE...kind of like a slightly less sinister looking Motley Crue in their prime), and younger musicians. They look like Mid 20-somethings with some kind of image problem. One example does not make a full story.

Still, that actually made me seriously laugh.
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