What would it take to make rock and metal more mainstream?

Rock N' Roll Clown · 09-12-2012, 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Conan

I wouldn't call him the most famous musician of the 2000s, not by a long shot. I've always thought he was talented, but you honestly think he's more talented than any rock or metal musicians who've started their careers after 1995?

Actually, I said "almost every", not "any", which are very different things. There are much more talented rock or metal musicians such as Scott Stapp and Mark Tremonti, Serj Tankian and many others, but I don't like it when people have their preconceptions and if they listen to rock or metal music, than pop or blues or whatever you want other music is bad for them.

**Janszoon** · 09-12-2012, 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Rock N' Roll Clown

Actually, I said "almost every", not "any", which are very different things. There are much more talented rock or metal musicians such as Scott Stapp and Mark Tremonti, Serj Tankian and...

FRED HALE SR. · 09-12-2012, 03:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Rock N' Roll Clown

Actually, I said "almost every", not "any", which are very different things. There are much more talented rock or metal musicians such as Scott Stapp and Mark Tremonti, Serj Tankian and many others, but I don't like it when people have their preconceptions and if they listen to rock or metal music, than pop or blues or whatever you want other music is bad for them.

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Mrd00d · 09-12-2012, 03:50 PM

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~~someonecompletelyrandom~~ · 09-12-2012, 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Rock N' Roll Clown

Actually, I said "almost every", not "any", which are very different things. There are much more talented rock or metal musicians such as Scott Stapp and Mark Tremonti, Serj Tankian and many others, but I don't like it when people have their preconceptions and if they listen to rock or metal music, than pop or blues or whatever you want other music is bad for them.

Well, I happen to agree with that. I don't think enjoying one genre of music devalues the other. I can say that, generally speaking, pop music relies less on the talent of the individual performers and more on the production. But technical talent in music isn't everything. I'd much rather listen to some fun dance music than to Buckethead, or some passionate four chord protest to an 8 minute rock opera.

Rock N' Roll Clown · 09-12-2012, 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Conan

Well, I happen to agree with that. I don't think enjoying one genre of music devalues the other. I can say that, generally speaking, pop music relies less on the talent of the individual performers and more on the production. But technical talent in music isn't everything. I'd much rather listen to some fun dance music than to Buckethead, or some passionate four chord protest to an 8 minute rock opera.

The almighty Keith Richards said it best: "five strings, three notes, two fingers and one arsehole to play it", in my interpretation - there's no need of useless shredding which takes so much practicing and exercising in order to make a good song.

And by the way, I totally liked that Muse song.

jackhammer · 09-12-2012, 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Rock N' Roll Clown

In fact, people would listen to whatever is on tv or radio. If today the mainstream media starts playing Slipknot, Beatles, or even, Tchaikovsky, people will start listening to it and liking it. The reason is in the media, not in the bands. The mainstream media plays music that is very easy to listen and they earn more and more money from this. So, I don't think that there is something a rock or metal band can do to earn some mainstream attention, which is scary, indeed.

Mainstream media plays what they are paid to play (it's a new tongue twister!). Why should certain music became more mainstream anyhow? That would just be boring.

People who just listen to mainstream music by and large are casual fans and are not as sad and uptight as the more serious music fan who listens outside of the mainstream and that is how it's always been.

It really doesn't bother me one bit anymore. I can still get to hear the music I want to hear without been told what to listen to by the popular media.

Balto · 09-12-2012, 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Rock N' Roll Clown

Don't insult the other music genres, please. Pop and rap are as good as any other style of music. For example, Justin Timberlake is way more talented than almost every rock and metal musician who started his career since 1995.

I think Serj would have to disagree with that statement, as would Otep Shamaya, Marilyn Manson, and almost every other rock bandmember out since 95'.

locoman23 · 09-13-2012, 06:11 AM

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Urban Hat€monger ? · 09-13-2012, 06:41 AM

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In the 80s Megadeth, Metallica, and Slayer were given a boost, and they still had a boost in the 90s.

It was the rock media that gave those bands the attention they got then, not the mainstream media.

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