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Key 08-29-2012 09:04 PM

I never really got into Bowie as much as others, so I can't really decide, though I know I like Dylan, so i'll go with him for question sake.

Howard the Duck 08-29-2012 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by blastingas10 (Post 1225418)
Dylan by a long shot. I like some of Bowies music, just not as much as Dylan. I think Dylan was a much better wordsmith. I don't agree that Bowie was as innovative and influential either. Bowie was more theatrical, more about his image. Dylan shunned his public Image, even famously revolted against it by going electric. Dylan is a bad ass.

c'mon, can Dylan even write like this?:-

It's a god-awful small affair
To the girl with the mousy hair
But her mummy is yelling "No"
And her daddy has told her to go
But her friend is nowhere to be seen
Now she walks through her sunken dream
To the seat with the clearest view
And she's hooked to the silver screen
But the film is a saddening bore
'Cause she's lived it ten times or more
She could spit in the eyes of fools
As they ask her to focus on

Sailors fighting in the dance hall
Oh man! Look at those cavemen go
It's the freakiest show
Take a look at the Lawman
Beating up the wrong guy
Oh man! Wonder if he'll ever know
He's in the best selling show
Is there life on Mars?

It's on Amerika's tortured brow
That Mickey Mouse has grown up a cow
Now the workers have struck for fame
'Cause Lennon's on sale again
See the mice in their million hordes
From Ibiza to the Norfolk Broads
Rule Britannia is out of bounds
To my mother, my dog, and clowns
But the film is a saddening bore
'Cause I wrote it ten times or more
It's about to be writ again
As I ask you to focus on

Neapolitan 08-30-2012 12:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Howard the Duck (Post 1225193)
both are excruciatingly horrible, IMHO

although the Byrds' one has a pleasant backdrop

it's just nothing, compared to the original


I like Kevin Barnes as a singer, he has a unique sound to his voice. I thought it was awesome, too bad you missed it.

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Originally Posted by Ki (Post 1225348)
Why judge based on covers on them when we can judge them based on the music they already made.

Genreally when people talk about how influential a artist is they don't mention who, here at least you have a firsthand of who they influenced. And it's a way of seeing how well there song does apart from them. Sometimes times people can't judge art apart from the artist eg they might not like the sound of Dylan's nasal whine, and not give his lyrics a chance. It's a way of thinking outside the box for a moment, just to get a slightly more objective pov of their talant.

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Originally Posted by Janszoon (Post 1225461)
Bowie, easily. Dylan is okay but I've always thought he was kind of overrated, especially in the lyric department. Bowie had a more varied and more interesting career and... well... he played more instruments. Plus, most importantly, he wrote more songs that I like than Dylan did.

Dylan's lyrics are a bit ambiguous. It's up to the listener to fill in the blanks for the meaning of the song, even if it wasn't Bob intention. They are taking away something from the song Dylan didn't intend. So he's somewhat overrate there.

I would pick Dylan as the better musician. Bob Dylan shows an amazing talent for playing the Folk guitar in his early days, and is a bit radical on the harmonica.


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Originally Posted by Franco Pepe Kalle (Post 1225358)
I guess you make a good point.

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Originally Posted by Franco Pepe Kalle (Post 1225458)
You analysis is 100 percent correct.

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Howard the Duck 08-30-2012 01:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Neapolitan (Post 1225493)
I like Kevin Barnes as a singer, he has a unique sound to his voice. I thought it was awesome, too bad you missed it.

don't get me wrong, I love Of Montreal

but only the electro-pop stuff and not the "twee pop" ****

that cover falls into "twee pop"

blastingas10 08-30-2012 01:29 AM

I think he could

The foreign sun, it squints upon
A bed that is never mine
As friends and other strangers
From their fates try to resign
Leaving men wholly totally free
To do anything they wish to do but die
And there are no trials inside the Gates of Eden.

Dylan was a pretty good musician as well. Songs like "buckets of rain" demonstrate his skill as a guitar player. And the song "new morning" is a great display of his skill as a piano player. And if you've seen him live anytime recently you've seen how much better hes got at the organ. And most importantly, as janszoon said, Dylan wrote more songs that I like. Perhaps I'll listen to Bowie more. I certainly have a respect for some of his music already.

Neapolitan 08-30-2012 02:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Howard the Duck (Post 1225499)
don't get me wrong, I love Of Montreal

but only the electro-pop stuff and not the "twee pop" ****

that cover falls into "twee pop"

Never heard of it, is that another made-up genre like your proto-Sludge Metal? No way, I don't know what you mean by that but I think your wrong... if we don't destroy our civilization it'll be sung at campfires a thousand years from now.

Howard the Duck 08-30-2012 02:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Neapolitan (Post 1225503)
Never heard of it, is that another made-up genre like your proto-Sludge Metal? No way, I don't know what you mean by that but I think your wrong... if we don't destroy our civilization it'll be sung at campfires a thousand years from now.

legitimate sub-genre

Indie pop - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

scroll down to the last few sentences

Neapolitan 08-30-2012 02:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Howard the Duck (Post 1225507)
legitimate sub-genre

Indie pop - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

scroll down to the last few sentences

But it's retronym, imo if bands are not making twee pop for twee pop sake it takes away the legitimacy of being an official movement. It's more of a moniker to pigeon-hole certain bands than an actual genre or sub-genre of its time.

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In the United States, the terms "twee",[12] "twee pop" and "cutie" (all pejorative terms in the UK) have been adopted retrospectively to describe some examples of indie pop, owing to what has been called the genre's "revolt into childhood".[13]


Howard the Duck 08-30-2012 02:58 AM

it's used currently to describe anything that sounds like it that's newer

Trollheart 08-30-2012 04:12 AM

Why don't we just go the whole hog and lump the rest in as "Everythingelsecore"? Yeah, that seems to cover it. Tons of arguments avoided. I am, officially, a genius. Thank you. :)

Howard the Duck 08-30-2012 04:17 AM

no way, i'm too much of a genre Nazi

Trollheart 08-30-2012 04:27 AM

New subtopic
 
As this is in essence a pointless comparison anyway, let's have your thoughts on

Bruce Springsteen vs A plank of wood

I mean, yeah, think about it: Springsteen's a great singer, excellent songwriter and all-round good egg, but where is he when you need to board up a window or a door? Bloody useless, right? And if you want to make a makeshift table with breezeblocks, no point using Springsteen as the flat surface.... Pretty pointless to try varnishing or painting him either. :)

Urban Hat€monger ? 08-30-2012 04:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Trollheart (Post 1225524)
As this is in essence a pointless comparison anyway,

Obviously not that pointless seeing as you have more posts in this thread than anybody else.

Oh wait you've not actually mentioned the topic subject in any of them. Maybe you should just leave the thread if you feel that way about it.

Trollheart 08-30-2012 05:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Urban Hatemonger ? (Post 1225525)
Obviously not that pointless seeing as you have more posts in this thread than anybody else.

Oh wait you've not actually mentioned the topic subject in any of them. Maybe you should just leave the thread if you feel that way about it.

Whoa Mister Grump! Just trying to inject a little humour into this.
I'm not familiar enough with either artiste to comment authoritatively, but that shouldn't exclude me from contributing/commenting. Plenty of people have remarked that the comparison offered here is pointless, as each works in a different genre, so it's not just me.

You don't see the funny side, fine: sorry I bothered. I'll just crawl back to my journal now, shall I? :jailed::shycouch:

ryncharlton 08-30-2012 05:20 AM

Odd comparison , but Bowie for me!

Urban Hat€monger ? 08-30-2012 05:20 AM

I'm just saying, you hate the thread you wanted it closed not so long ago, so instead of letting it sink down into obscurity you keep bumping it & then complaining it's still here.

Makes no sense to me.

Trollheart 08-30-2012 05:58 AM

Ah I don't hate it. I don't hate much really: just seemed a pointless comparison but hey, if it's to be left open then fine. Just thought I'd poke a little fun at it.

Guess we don't think the same way, but then, I was programmed to be -- er, I mean ... look, just forget you heard that, okay? (shifty-eyed look)

Edit: Oh, and one point to clear up? I haven't bumped this, not once. I don't go looking for it to slip in a comment. It's been regularly posted in, and I just check the threads I'm interested in to see when/if they've been posted in. If they haven't, and I've nothing to add, I don't bump them, or any thread, needlessly. Check the posts: three or four yesterday, two today, apart from mine. It's not like I'm trying to keep it alive in direct contradiction to what I said. If no-one posted anymore, or it got locked down, then I wouldn't care in the slightest. But as it's active I'm just keeping up to date on what's happening in it, and adding in my two cents here and there when I can.

Urban Hat€monger ? 08-30-2012 06:49 AM

Save your off topic postings for lounge threads, don't pollute the music forums with them please.

It's beginning to get to the point where we may have to clampdown on this, and you don't want that.

Key 08-30-2012 06:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Neapolitan (Post 1225493)
Genreally when people talk about how influential a artist is they don't mention who, here at least you have a firsthand of who they influenced. And it's a way of seeing how well there song does apart from them. Sometimes times people can't judge art apart from the artist eg they might not like the sound of Dylan's nasal whine, and not give his lyrics a chance. It's a way of thinking outside the box for a moment, just to get a slightly more objective pov of their talant.

That's true. Never really thought of it that way to be honest.


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