Howard the Duck

i use soundcloud

it's mostly just for my friends to listen, actually

and not promo

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Dark Rider

No. I'm attempting to find out:

1) If such a site already exists,

2) If there is interest in such a site

because if one does not exist, and there is interest, I may create one to better help serve the internet music community.

Urban Hat€monger ?

Waste of time if you ask me.
Nobody actually listens to homemade music put up online and if they do it's only once or twice out of curiosity or loyalty because they know the person who made it. No band has really made any money or success from it..... Ever.

You want to make money? go busking.

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Mrd00d

Busk, Youtube, or take advantage of the Pirate Bay's well intentioned and heavily trafficked front page promo center. The idea of promoting small artists was recent and a very nice move on their part. Despite whether you like how they do it, fact is they're the only ones doing it.

So my thoughts on a new torrent site specifically geared towards small artists would be that its a waste of time. Pirate Bay has a literal butt-ton of visitors daily. You can start a torrent site, perhaps, but ... what will bring them there? It won't be indexed high on google, it's not gonna pass through word of mouth for years most likely, and probably can't or won't compete with the vast amount of other small artists choosing youtube, bandcamp, and/or Promo Bay, amongst others.

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Dark Rider

I think it would be wise to get away from the illegal pirating stigma that Pirate Bay (and hence The Promo Bay) has. Why bring people to a torrent site to download legal music, when they will quickly find they can download illegal music just as fast from the same source? That whole idea smells rotten to me. I think in the long run, it will hurt artists more than help them.

What will bring them there? Same as above. accentuate the positives of my system (still in development - on paper) while countering the drawbacks of the YouTube/Bandcamp/Promo Bay systems. If I can do both successfully word of mouth, sponsors, and search engine rankings will grow quickly. I believe it's possible to overshadow those limited services within 2 years with steady growth.

I disagree with Urban Hatemonger. People don't listen to home grown bands not because they are home grown but because they don't have enough exposure. The money will follow the exposure. I don't listen to a band I like simply because they are backed by a record company - who is most likely robbing the artist blind and nor do you. We listen because we like what we hear. I remember underground music back in the early 80's. We called it non commercial or non conformist music. This was music only played over local college radio stations. We heard bands like The Deal Milkmen, The Resonance, The Dead Kennedy's, The Butt Hole Surfers. Those bands had large followings on a local and national level - before any of them signed a contract for a record label. Their medium of growth was the college fans.

BTW, Urban Hatemonger, your name suggests your the kind of person who might like some of those bands I mentioned. If your young enough not to know them, I urge you to look them up. God I miss the Punk era.

Problem is up till now, we really haven't had a really good way for small artists to get that world wide exposure quickly enough to grow in this medium of internet music publishing. Dan Bull did it through YouTube, but this is not the norm. YouTube isn't known for making stars. I believe the video aspect is important.. being a fan of the real MTV from day 1 back in early 80's. Too bad MTV died 5 years later. (some of you won't understand that) I plan to incorporate video into this site as well. I simply think this type of thing can be done much better than it's being done now.

Franco Pepe Kalle

Well good news for people who are in Youtube is that you can now do songs for money. You can actually moneytize your channel so every view equals a profit.

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Guybrush

If you have a band and you have properly recorded an album but don't have a contract with a record label, just create your own record label. Then you can make a deal with spotify and itunes.

And, if you want, design a booklet and some vinyl/cd art and send it to a printers if you want a physical medium.

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Deviouz

Something like datpiff?

Mrd00d

Exactly like datpiff. /thread

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KW710

Try Top-Spin. They're more of a Merch solution, but they let you choose whether people can download your music for free or not.