Anyone Else Dislike Most Long Songs?

sopsych · 08-22-2012, 10:16 AM

Haha, sensitive fanboys. Metal isn't a genre where good singing is required, and good singers in it have names like "Rob Halford" and "Bruce Dickinson." Maybe Dio's voice was strong (not sure about the last decade) and apparently the "enunciation" was above-average, but his voice didn't sound good. Perhaps I assessed the writing harshly, but the lyrics lack emotional substance, period. Metal standards for lyrics are pretty low. Was Dio long regarded as a metal great? Maybe, maybe not. But metal fans are a small subset of music fans. [move to a Dio thread?]

Key · 08-22-2012, 12:32 PM

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Originally Posted by wisdom

Haha, sensitive fanboys. Metal isn't a genre where good singing is required, and good singers in it have names like "Rob Halford" and "Bruce Dickinson." Maybe Dio's voice was strong (not sure about the last decade) and apparently the "enunciation" was above-average, but his voice didn't sound good. Perhaps I assessed the writing harshly, but the lyrics lack emotional substance, period. Metal standards for lyrics are pretty low. Was Dio long regarded as a metal great? Maybe, maybe not. But metal fans are a small subset of music fans. [move to a Dio thread?]

The fact that you can't see that Dio was a great singer proves to everybody in this thread that you have no idea what you're talking about. And good singing is pretty normal in the metal genre. Take a look at power metal, progressive metal, and heavy metal. Bands like Theocracy, Symphony X, Myrath, and the like all have fantastic singers.

Stop while you're behind, otherwise you're going to get eaten alive.

Trollheart · 08-22-2012, 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Ki

The fact that you can't see that Dio was a great singer proves to everybody in this thread that you have no idea what you're talking about. And good singing is pretty normal in the metal genre. Take a look at power metal, progressive metal, and heavy metal. Bands like Theocracy, Symphony X, Myrath, and the like all have fantastic singers.

Stop while you're behind, otherwise you're going to get eaten alive.

Ki man, don't even bother. This is plainly someone who is only interested in their own view and not prepared to listen to arguments in a mature way. Let the thread die and be forgotten, which is what it deserves. I'd waste no more time on it if I were you. Better things to do.

Key · 08-22-2012, 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Trollheart

Ki man, don't even bother. This is plainly someone who is only interested in their own view and not prepared to listen to arguments in a mature way. Let the thread die and be forgotten, which is what it deserves. I'd waste no more time on it if I were you. Better things to do.

I figured i'd protect my side if anything. But you're right. Debating with somebody who isn't willing to debate isn't much fun.

Trollheart · 08-22-2012, 12:55 PM

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Originally Posted by wisdom

Haha, sensitive fanboys. Metal isn't a genre where good singing is required, and good singers in it have names like "Rob Halford" and "Bruce Dickinson." Maybe Dio's voice was strong (not sure about the last decade) and apparently the "enunciation" was above-average, but his voice didn't sound good. Perhaps I assessed the writing harshly, but the lyrics lack emotional substance, period. Metal standards for lyrics are pretty low. Was Dio long regarded as a metal great? Maybe, maybe not. But metal fans are a small subset of music fans. [move to a Dio thread?]

I'm really coming close to telling you where to go. You're so full of it it's just sickening and you can't see anyone's view other than your own. I've never known such obstinate arrogance in my life, particularly from someone who plainly hasn't a clue about the genre, making (another) stupid and ill-informed comment like the one bolded above.

But just so you can see you're wrong and it's not just my opinion, read the third sentence. Unless you're afraid to see how many people disagree with you.

Ronnie James Dio - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Now I'm off before I get into trouble with the mods. Have a nice life.

Unknown Soldier · 08-22-2012, 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by wisdom

Dio was a lousy singer, and his songs are lyrically vapid and repetitive; length magnifies all those flaws.
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Now you're just coming across as the forum brat, the above statement alone shows that you really don't know that much about music.

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Originally Posted by wisdom

Haha, sensitive fanboys. Metal isn't a genre where good singing is required, and good singers in it have names like "Rob Halford" and "Bruce Dickinson." Maybe Dio's voice was strong (not sure about the last decade) and apparently the "enunciation" was above-average, but his voice didn't sound good. Perhaps I assessed the writing harshly, but the lyrics lack emotional substance, period. Metal standards for lyrics are pretty low. Was Dio long regarded as a metal great? Maybe, maybe not. But metal fans are a small subset of music fans. [move to a Dio thread?]

Most metal fanboys are not really that sensitive on this forum and by singling out two of the most famous vocalists in metal, it really shows just how liimited your knowledge of the genre really is.

I saw the start of this thread where you were whining on about disliking songs over 6 mins, then you didn't like very short songs either, I don't know what you were bleating on about in the middle section as I haven't read that and now you're getting your knickers in a twist over metal. There really is a time and place for everything and all you're doing now is just making yourself look dopey, just be a good boy and sit the rest of the thread out.

As for metal not really requiring great singers, I'll have to cut and paste that one, for when I need a good laugh in the future.

**Janszoon** · 08-22-2012, 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Unknown Soldier

As for metal not really requiring great singers, I'll have to cut and paste that one, for when I need a good laugh in the future.

On this point, I think I actually have to agree with wisdom. Most of my favorite metal has very little emphasis on the vocalist or has no vocalist at all, so at least for me, the genre really doesn't require good singers.

Unknown Soldier · 08-22-2012, 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon

On this point, I think I actually have to agree with wisdom. Most of my favorite metal has very little emphasis on the vocalist or has no vocalist at all, so at least for me, the genre really doesn't require good singers.

I'm just the opposite, the majority of the metal I like does require good singers.

**Janszoon** · 08-22-2012, 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Unknown Soldier

I'm just the opposite, the majority of the metal I like does require good singers.

Not from what I've heard.

(joking, joking)

Unknown Soldier · 08-22-2012, 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon

Not from what I've heard.

(joking, joking)

Well its obvious from some of the metal albums that you listen to, that the quality of singing is well down on the list of priorities.

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sopsych Music Addict Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: indoors Posts: 722	Haha, sensitive fanboys. Metal isn't a genre where good singing is required, and good singers in it have names like "Rob Halford" and "Bruce Dickinson." Maybe Dio's voice was strong (not sure about the last decade) and apparently the "enunciation" was above-average, but his voice didn't sound good. Perhaps I assessed the writing harshly, but the lyrics lack emotional substance, period. Metal standards for lyrics are pretty low. Was Dio long regarded as a metal great? Maybe, maybe not. But metal fans are a small subset of music fans. [move to a Dio thread?] Last edited by sopsych; 08-22-2012 at 10:23 AM.