Urban Hat€monger ?

To be fair if the only long songs I had heard were by Richard Marx, Guns n Roses & The Eagles I'd probably hate all long songs too.

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Trollheart

Yeah but that's what I don't understand: it doesn't happen that way.
If you hear a bad metal song (in your opinion) do you decide that's it, no more metal for me? It's as mad as saying that song was too long, so I won't listen to any more long songs. I just cannot wrap my head around it at all. What difference does it matter if the song lasts 2 minutes, 20 minutes or 2 hours? If I hate it, then it doesn't matter how long/short it is, I won't listen to it, but it won't stop me listening to others of the same length, and vice versa.

The only two reasons I look at length with songs is 1) when reviewing, as I like to see what's the shortest and longest songs, and if they deserve to be and 2) when an album has few tracks, I expect at least one of them to be over 10 minutes to make it worth while buying. Also, if I'm enjoying a song for the first time and haven't noted its length, I will probably look to see how much longer there is to go.

Other than that, I couldn't give a

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Janszoon

Now if we could just get you to apply this same line of thinking to all the "street music" you refuse to give a chance we'd be getting somewhere.

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Trollheart

Like what, Jansz? I'm open-minded enough musically, but I do know certain styles of music I don't like: punk, hip-hop, gangsta rap, death metal and so on, so there's probably little point in trying any of those. I have, let's see, about close to a terabyte of a music collection on the PC, with perhaps half of that music I have yet to listen to, so I'm careful about what I try out.

Knowing my tastes, if you have anything you think I'd like and want to shoot my way, feel free, but remember I hate death vocals and I'm just not able to get into rap, does nothing for me at all.

Incidentally, I'm looking for guest reviewers for the journal: interested?

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Janszoon

I don't know, I'm just paraphrasing a comment I saw you make about why you've never listened to trip-hop I believe.

Heh. You're dismissing absolutely massive swaths of the music out there in these remarks. You don't see the parallels to what the OP is saying? How is "I'm just not able to get into rap" any different from "I'm just not able to get into long songs"?

Sure thing. Send me something and I'd be happy to do a little write up.

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I don't think I said that, as I've never been clear on what trip-hop is, and always lump it with hip-hop, which I'm sure is incorrect. Can you set me straight on that?
I'm aware of the irony, however I don't think it's the same thing at all. I know, from my own musical preferences, that I don't like those genres. There may be something in there that would surprise me, but it's not like I haven't heard them. OP is dismissing ANY music based on PURELY the length of the song, which I think is something totally different. Many people are not into certain genres or sub-genres, and I can of course accept and respect that, but someone dismissing ALL music purely because it's too long is something else again. Hey, look, I'm not Jackhammer, never will be. Keep that Grindcore away from me!


What would you like, or shall I surprise you?

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Janszoon

It was actually in the long-form bio you have linked to in profile. You were listing everything you consider "street music" and saying you didn't like any of it.

Anyway, to answer your question: "hip hop" technically, traditionally, refers to the culture which encompasses DJ-ing, rapping, breakdancing and graffiti, but more commonly is used as essentially a synonym for "rap music". Trip hop, while certainly influenced to some extent by hip hop, really doesn't have much in common with it. It's a type of downtempo electronica that has a kind of late night, noir-ish vibe and rarely involves rapping. There's actually a lot of it that's instrumental (though the following videos aren't). Here's an example of one of the most well-known trip hop songs, which you've probably heard before, "Teardrop" by Massive Attack:



And another fairly well-known example, "Overcome" by Tricky:




If you say so. I think it's pretty much the same thing though.


Surprise me with something I've never heard of.

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