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Old 08-14-2012, 12:38 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Incidentally, may I ask if you bother with any classical music, much of which can run to the tens or higher minutes?
I bet he won't even bother with the pieces I posted on the first page.
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I bet he won't even bother with the pieces I posted on the first page.
It seems to me that he has an opinion that won't change regardless of what we give to him. I mentioned prog in my last post and he said he doesn't like proggy song because "they're too long". I don't know how to satisfy his tastes if he doesn't like short or long songs. I'm not going to bother going out of my way to find a "medium length" song. Because 2 minutes is too short, and 6 is too long. Makes no sense.
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Old 08-18-2012, 03:48 PM   #3 (permalink)
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It depends on how good it is, really. Sometimes I am bored with six-minute songs, and sometimes I go listen to Lift Your Skinny Fists Like Antennas To Heaven.
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Old 08-14-2012, 07:07 PM   #4 (permalink)
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I can't say I do. A lot of my favorite songs are 6+ minutes and I love it. More time to enjoy them :>
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Old 08-14-2012, 07:39 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Who can resist Neil Young's "Down by the River?" Great song!
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Old 08-14-2012, 09:55 PM   #6 (permalink)
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Correct, I don't like classical. I also don't like jazz (though "Lily Was Here" is good). I'd blamed that on the usual lack of vocals, but now I realize length likely is a factor.

I like probably thousands of songs between 3 and 5 minutes in length. Those between 3:30 and 4:30 tend to be best.

I did listen to a little of that melody "Belfast Child" comes from. Meh. I then went back and listened to the Buckethead song. Mostly because I'd seen him praised on this site but had never bothered with his music before, as I doubted someone called "Buckethead" could be a great. I was wrong - very good guitar work there, and the other instruments on the track are good, too, and the thing flows and experiments nicely, so that it felt a few minutes shorter than its 8 minutes. Still, I'm not interested in seeking out lengthy pieces like that, because I'm almost always busy and have trouble concentrating on other things when listening to music (though that's one benefit of instrumentals, no distracting vocaals).

This thread was never about me convincing anyone or daring people to try to change my mind. To each his own, as long as people don't claim Rebecca Black or other cr*p is actually good. But I am surprised that I'm not finding supporters - radio and music television wouldn't be so full of 3-5 minute songs if that weren't the public's preference.
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I am surprised that I'm not finding supporters - radio and music television wouldn't be so full of 3-5 minute songs if that weren't the public's preference.
A site full of music fanatics isn't exactly representative of the general public.
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Correct, I don't like classical. I also don't like jazz (though "Lily Was Here" is good). I'd blamed that on the usual lack of vocals, but now I realize length likely is a factor.

I like probably thousands of songs between 3 and 5 minutes in length. Those between 3:30 and 4:30 tend to be best.

I did listen to a little of that melody "Belfast Child" comes from. Meh. I then went back and listened to the Buckethead song. Mostly because I'd seen him praised on this site but had never bothered with his music before, as I doubted someone called "Buckethead" could be a great. I was wrong - very good guitar work there, and the other instruments on the track are good, too, and the thing flows and experiments nicely, so that it felt a few minutes shorter than its 8 minutes. Still, I'm not interested in seeking out lengthy pieces like that, because I'm almost always busy and have trouble concentrating on other things when listening to music (though that's one benefit of instrumentals, no distracting vocaals).

This thread was never about me convincing anyone or daring people to try to change my mind. To each his own, as long as people don't claim Rebecca Black or other cr*p is actually good. But I am surprised that I'm not finding supporters - radio and music television wouldn't be so full of 3-5 minute songs if that weren't the public's preference.
As Janz nicely put, welcome to a music forum. If you can't break the habit of being so disciplined with the length of a song, you'll miss a lot of great music.
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Correct, I don't like classical. I also don't like jazz (though "Lily Was Here" is good). I'd blamed that on the usual lack of vocals, but now I realize length likely is a factor.

I like probably thousands of songs between 3 and 5 minutes in length. Those between 3:30 and 4:30 tend to be best.
3:30 to 4:30 is just statistically the most common duration of your favorite songs - the ones you think are the "best." I can't see how the length of the song could be taken into consideration whether or not a song is good or bad. It's almost like saying if you could eat dessert between three & a half to four & a half minutes it would taste better. No, either the dessert taste good or it doesn't. If you hear something you like.

In Art music e.g. Baroque music a peice can be a Suite or Concertos which can be broken into movements, and some of them are in binary form A-A-B-B. So even if the peice might be lengthy timewise it's actually composed of short sections. And the same is true for most Porgressive Rock songs they are a bunch of short songs that are strung together to make one long song. So if you used that critea that shorter is better and you broke a long song down into it's components it should be still acceptable to you, right?

I like Song 2 (~2 minutes) & Teen Age Riot (~7 minutes) and I can play the latter more than once, too. And they're both out of your 3:30 to 4:30 range. But how long they are really doesn't come into consideration what I like about them. Song 2 is hooky and Teen Age Riot developes as a song.


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Song length is meaningless to me as long as the content is still up to par. Like some of Canibus' tracks or Built To Spill's rendition of Cortez The Killer. Anything shorter wouldn't do them justice.
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