Rolling Stone: 10 Greatest Albums of All Time

NEWGUY562 · 08-05-2012, 03:39 AM

I pay more attention to the music than i do with lyrics...my girlfriend is the exact opposite she always pin points all the damn lyrics lol...
Bob Dylan is decent he's definitely more of a wordsmith than a musician..but when I'm in the mood to listen to some folk rock I'll play The Byrds

**Goofle** · 08-05-2012, 07:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Pedestrian

Recommend me two albums by each that I'd enjoy?

For Leonard Cohen:

Songs of Leonard Cohen
Songs of Love and Hate
New Skin for the Old Ceremony

Not too fussed about Bob Dylan to be honest, Highway 61 Revisited is the obvious stand out, but I really don't get into much of his other work.

blackdragon123 · 08-05-2012, 08:35 AM

i think that to concentrate on either solely the music or the lyrics of an artist is a bit like going to see a play and only listenning to the dialogue or only watching the stage directions. I've never understood the concept of dissecting a song and ignoring half of its content (unless you're trying to learn the song) music is an art and every part of it is art. This includes the music, the lyrics and even the artwork. Bob Dylan (love him or hate him) is a poet, and makes use of lyrics like no other lyricist i've ever heard. You can call him crap and badmouth him all you want but you can never deny that the man has a mastery over words that makes him truly unique.

blastingas10 · 08-05-2012, 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Salami

Although to be quite honest, I love Bob's voice. I'm not saying that from the old "it conveys emotion" nonsense, I feel that certainly in his later albums it really fits his music perfectly. There's the worn down, haggard sense of fatigue in "Can't Stop" and "Cold Irons Bound" from Time Out Of Mind, and later from Modern Times, songs like "When The Deal Goes Down" have a worldly wise feeling that he's lived through the "disappointment and pain" and has "worn the same thorny crown".

Nope, I think Bob Dylan's voice is fine on aesthetic grounds as well.

I totally agree. Dylan gets way too much flak about his voice. He was a good singer in my opinion. The way the voice sounds on the surface isn't everything, the way a singer delivers their message and the sincerity and emotion they put into it is what really counts. Dylans voice sounds just fine on the surface, too. You don't hear leonard Cohen or Lou reed get near as much criticism about their voice and Dylan can sing way better than them in my opinion. Same goes for Neil young, I don't think he's really any better at singing than Dylan. The list goes on. I think Dylan gets so much criticism because he's one of the biggest names in music, hes a big target.

Rjinn · 08-05-2012, 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Ki

As it's probably been mentioned a million times on here. It's not about Dylan's voice, it's about his lyrics.

I agree. His voice wasn't as big of a concern to him as his ballads were. It was more about the message he was trying to address. You can argue that his voice stand alone wasn't too great, but the way his music shaped fitted in nicely.

**Janszoon** · 08-05-2012, 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Pedestrian

I have not yet heard one Bob Dylan or Leonard Cohen album, and it comes down to the fact that lyrics alone cannot hold my interest in an album, so frankly, I've been afraid to give them a go and end up bored.

If you listen to one Cohen album, listen to Songs of Love and Hate. That is all.

Vertigo · 08-06-2012, 03:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Duraddict

How many threads are we going to have like this? Seriously. Is this a Beatles fan-site in disguise or something?

This. Give if a f*cking break with The Beatles, already.

**Goofle** · 08-06-2012, 05:15 AM

There's like three people who are obsessed with that band, and they are mostly giggled at.

Rjinn · 08-06-2012, 05:26 AM

Don't understand the big consistent popularity The Beatles still get. Always thought they were the kind of band you would move on from with their simple fundamentals. Guess you could understand the older generations who were around, but that's it.

blackdragon123 · 08-06-2012, 08:16 AM

on the other hand i think a lot of people dislike The Beatles simply because they're popular, which is equally as "pathetic" as being obsessed with them. The Beatles were and are popular not only due to their consistent catalogue of hits but also for their individual personalities and legacies. They're not one of my favourite bands but to dislike them because everyone loves them is nothing short of infantile

View Poll Results: top 10 albums of all time?
Sgt Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band	12	17.65%
Pet Sounds	5	7.35%
Revolver	5	7.35%
Highway 61 Revisited	7	10.29%
Rubber Soul	2	2.94%
What's Going On?	4	5.88%
Exile on Main St.	4	5.88%
London Calling	10	14.71%
Blonde on Blonde	4	5.88%
The Beatles (The White Album)	7	10.29%
I hate all of them!	8	11.76%
Voters: 68. You may not vote on this poll

08-05-2012, 08:35 AM	#53 (permalink)
blackdragon123 don't be no bojangles Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Wales Posts: 496	i think that to concentrate on either solely the music or the lyrics of an artist is a bit like going to see a play and only listenning to the dialogue or only watching the stage directions. I've never understood the concept of dissecting a song and ignoring half of its content (unless you're trying to learn the song) music is an art and every part of it is art. This includes the music, the lyrics and even the artwork. Bob Dylan (love him or hate him) is a poet, and makes use of lyrics like no other lyricist i've ever heard. You can call him crap and badmouth him all you want but you can never deny that the man has a mastery over words that makes him truly unique. __________________ 'Well, I'm a common working man, With a half of bitter, bread and jam, And if it pleases me, I'll put one on ya man, When the copper fades away!' - Jethro Tull

08-06-2012, 05:26 AM	#59 (permalink)
Rjinn The Aerosol in your Soul Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: New South Wales, Australia Posts: 1,546	Don't understand the big consistent popularity The Beatles still get. Always thought they were the kind of band you would move on from with their simple fundamentals. Guess you could understand the older generations who were around, but that's it. __________________ last.fm

08-06-2012, 08:16 AM	#60 (permalink)
blackdragon123 don't be no bojangles Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Wales Posts: 496	on the other hand i think a lot of people dislike The Beatles simply because they're popular, which is equally as "pathetic" as being obsessed with them. The Beatles were and are popular not only due to their consistent catalogue of hits but also for their individual personalities and legacies. They're not one of my favourite bands but to dislike them because everyone loves them is nothing short of infantile __________________ 'Well, I'm a common working man, With a half of bitter, bread and jam, And if it pleases me, I'll put one on ya man, When the copper fades away!' - Jethro Tull

08-05-2012, 03:39 AM	#51 (permalink)
NEWGUY562 Music Addict Join Date: Apr 2012 Posts: 429	I pay more attention to the music than i do with lyrics...my girlfriend is the exact opposite she always pin points all the damn lyrics lol... Bob Dylan is decent he's definitely more of a wordsmith than a musician..but when I'm in the mood to listen to some folk rock I'll play The Byrds