Rolling Stone: 10 Greatest Albums of All Time

blastingas10 · 08-07-2012, 05:02 PM

I totally understand the complains about the list. I'm not saying they are, but who's to say the Beatles aren't the greatest band ever, who's to say they are? Nobody, It's all subjective.

Unknown Soldier · 08-07-2012, 05:15 PM

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But surely with the Stones it has to really be a different kind of fanatic - the sort of person who's fanatical about the Beatles will usually tend to work on the idea that they were the "most influential" and "most innovative" side of the argument, and following that therefore all other bands are inferior copies (or such seems to be the sort of argument made). They'll point out that the catchy, simple lyrics and instrumentation in their songs formed the roots of modern pop and that people related to it more than any other band.
The Stones fanatics won't really pursue that line of reasoning - they are far more likely to argue that the lyrics are deeper and deal with real world problems. As a result, I find it hard not to imagine the Stones obsessives being altogether more worldly and more rough than the Beatles bores.

The Stones bores are different but the outcome is just the same. Sure they don't go on about innovation and being influential like Beatles fans do, they just tend to see themselves as understanding what rock n roll is all about and the Rolling Stones typify that belief. Any argument against them, they just laugh off, they kind of see the Stones as untouchables. It all get very boring really, especially since they usually have a lack of knowledge of other bands from that era.

**Janszoon** · 08-07-2012, 05:26 PM

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The Stones bores are different but the outcome is just the same. Sure they don't go on about innovation and being influential like Beatles fans do, they just tend to see themselves as understanding what rock n roll is all about and the Rolling Stones typify that belief. Any argument against them, they just laugh off, they kind of see the Stones as untouchables. It all get very boring really, especially since they usually have a lack of knowledge of other bands from that era.

I find that to be kind of a hallmark of people who think it's all about one particular artist.

Neapolitan · 08-07-2012, 07:16 PM

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Sure they don't go on about innovation and being influential like Beatles fans do, they just tend to see themselves as understanding what rock n roll is all about and the Rolling Stones typify that belief.

The Stones have a fair amount of firsts. But they are not quite as impressive as Paul McCartney plugging in his bass directly into the recording console.

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Any argument against them, they just laugh off, they kind of see the Stones as untouchables.

yeah the Stones are untouchable.

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It all get very boring really, especially since they usually have a lack of knowledge of other bands from that era.

The Stones spans six decades, that's a heck lot of bands you demand us to know.

Rjinn · 08-07-2012, 07:31 PM

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Simple fundamentals? Hmm. You must not know their music very well. They did a lot more than simple fundamentals. Ever hear the song "happiness is a warm gun"?

I do own a lot of their albums and most of their songs were simplistic. When I say fundaments it's more a figure of an open door towards rock and pop music. That's part of the reason why they were so influential. Some of their songs were more sophisticated than others, but hardly in a general sense. Especially comparing them with today's kind.

blastingas10 · 08-07-2012, 08:26 PM

Sure, there are more complex bands, but there are also bands who are a lot more simple.

Rjinn · 08-07-2012, 09:01 PM

Not doubting that there are. Was just giving reasons why The Beatles were easy to pass through.

Key · 08-07-2012, 09:31 PM

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Not doubting that there are. Was just giving reasons why The Beatles were easy to pass through.

I didn't really like them upon first exposure, but after a couple listens and with some pushing, they're one of my top ten bands.

blastingas10 · 08-07-2012, 09:52 PM

Exact same here. I used talk down on them, they used to be some pussy pop band in my eyes, but then i gave them a chance and started researching their music and really developed a great respect for them. I realized they weren't as simple as they can appear to be, and weren't a formulaic pop band. They were actually are quite experimental and innovative for popular music. They were always developing and experimenting with their sound, more so than most rock/pop bands.

Neapolitan · 08-07-2012, 09:52 PM

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Sure, there are more complex bands, but there are also bands who are a lot more simple.

The Beatles did both simple and complex songs. I think when they were playing a Blues-type song then the chord progression was simple, and somtimes when they played something like a showtune like 'Til There Was You" then the chord progression was complex. But in genereal they got more complex as they went along, then they went back to the basics e.g. One After 909. Plus they are the only band I know to ever use an Augmented chord, I think that was made them intriguing to some because they heard some unusual chord and thought subconscientiously "That's different, what chord was that?" I think that added to The Beatles appeal.

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08-07-2012, 09:01 PM	#207 (permalink)
Rjinn The Aerosol in your Soul Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: New South Wales, Australia Posts: 1,546	Not doubting that there are. Was just giving reasons why The Beatles were easy to pass through. __________________ last.fm

08-07-2012, 05:02 PM	#201 (permalink)
blastingas10 Music Addict Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 2,126	I totally understand the complains about the list. I'm not saying they are, but who's to say the Beatles aren't the greatest band ever, who's to say they are? Nobody, It's all subjective.

08-07-2012, 08:26 PM	#206 (permalink)
blastingas10 Music Addict Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 2,126	Sure, there are more complex bands, but there are also bands who are a lot more simple.

08-07-2012, 09:52 PM	#209 (permalink)
blastingas10 Music Addict Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 2,126	Exact same here. I used talk down on them, they used to be some pussy pop band in my eyes, but then i gave them a chance and started researching their music and really developed a great respect for them. I realized they weren't as simple as they can appear to be, and weren't a formulaic pop band. They were actually are quite experimental and innovative for popular music. They were always developing and experimenting with their sound, more so than most rock/pop bands.