LoathsomePete

Well now that we've got our semi-annual Beatles debate out of the way, who's ready to get a head start on our semi-annual Radiohead debate?

__________________
Last.FM
101 Albums That May Not Change Your Life, But I Really Like And You Might Too

Unknown Soldier

You need to remember people are like sheep. If often takes some guts and desire to reach your own independent opinions.

__________________
Metal Wars

Power Metal

Pounding Decibels- A Hard and Heavy History

Salami

YAWN.....

To be quite frank I doubt there's a single facet of knowledge remaining in the Beatles/Stones debate that hasn't been fathomed in great depth, discussed, critiqued, analysed, outlived it's welcome and become boring.

Equally tiresome is the astonishment and disbelief from the Beatles fanatics that somehow not everyone thinks they are the best band ever to have existed as Urban rightly pointed out, and personally I'm throwing out that I'd even prefer Bon Jovi over the Beatles any day, even if Jon is as annoying as Paul, at least no-one cares if you don't like the guy and you can get away from them. No such luxuries for Beatle related boredom.

However, I suppose there's still no harm in looking a little bit at some of these comparisons, as long as it's not serious in any way.


Abbey Road vs. Sticky Fingers is the most interesting here, and of course in terms of album art I think the Beatles win hands down if we consider the Spanish cover for Sticky Fingers:



However such superficial grounds is the only aspect in which Abbey Road is superior. The defining song from Sticky Fingers is I think "Wild Horses", excellently described by an MB member a while ago as "six minutes of pure emotion". However the two most relevant are "Dead Flowers" and "Sister Morphine", which actually talk about drugs, don't pretend to be pleasant or comfortable in any way, they just talk about it.
"Why does the doctor have your face?" - I'm confused, what the fuck is happening to me?

I could go on, perhaps I might observe "Moonlight Mile" is one of my favourite closing tracks on an album, "Brown Sugar" with it's further uncomfortable references to slavery, really going quite out of the comfort zone for an album.

I must stress at this point though I do not care. The Stones who remain are all sad, ugly, old and shitty, there are indisputably better bands around.

The point is, we had fun. The point should not be that we're trying to impress people by affiliating ourselves with cult music acts that command a lot of respect. Neither should it be about trying to regurgitate other people's ideas, I doubt anyone genuinely believes that "Pet Sounds" is actually the best music ever made in the history of man.

Anyway I'm bored. Someone PM me obscene photos or something, I demand some entertainment and this discussion is not doing the trick.

SGR

That much really is true. People are like sheep with everything though. You gotta have a drive to go out and listen to new stuff and stuff out of your comfort zone.

Janszoon

Meh. I guess I'm with you in the sense that my contenders for best album ever largely came out in my formative years, but is this really the music of my generation? Most of the people making the music I loved so much back then were not from my generation, they're from some generation in between me and my parents. So what difference does it make for me to latch onto Robert Smith and Al Jourgensen verus Brian Wilson and John Lennon in terms of my generation? All of them are actually old enough to be my parents, technically speaking.

That said, I do get a little suspicious when people go for the easy choices though. I mean your favorite album doesn't have to come from some Rolling Stone top ten list.

__________________
A Night in the Life of the Invisible Man

Time & Place

25 Albums You Should Hear Before the Moon Crashes into the Earth and We All Die

last.fm

Rjinn

Or you could appreciate good music for being good music despite what era it came from which is irrelevant?

__________________
last.fm

Urban Hat€monger ?

I see your point, maybe it was different for me. Most of the bands I listened to in the 90s were bands that were formed in the 90s so most of the time they were only a few years older than me.

I said there was nothing wrong with liking those albums. But you really want your favourite album of all time to be something you weren't around to see the impact it made first hand?

__________________

Janszoon

Was this a reply to me or just a general comment?

__________________
A Night in the Life of the Invisible Man

Time & Place

25 Albums You Should Hear Before the Moon Crashes into the Earth and We All Die

last.fm

Rjinn

Bit general and bit directed at Urban H.

Who cares how much it impacted the generation. It's mostly about who and how much it was valued by the population. It has nothing to do with how their production faired as musicianship. Sure, we didn't have the opportunity to see them in action (which there is usually a record of), and that's the only point I see. Culture is a different matter.

Also I'd like to add by your logic Clubbing music is the most dominating music culture in Australia. So does that mean my musical merit should be mostly directed towards trashy Ministry of Sound slut albums because of its huge impact to our present culture?

__________________
last.fm

NEWGUY562

i love their soft harmonies
have you ever heard pet sounds or smile?