Racism/Sexism/ect in Music

hip hop bunny hop · 07-15-2012, 04:02 PM

Seriously? Just listening to people whom you know to have different opinions bugs you that much?

Duraddict · 07-15-2012, 10:19 PM

No. There's a difference between differing views and singing about said different views.

I don't listen to Public Enemy for the same reason I don't listen to Prussian Blue or Elephant Man. Why would I, as a practicing homosexual, want to listen to an artist who legitimately thinks I should be killed?

Your logic makes no sense.

**Janszoon** · 07-15-2012, 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Duraddict

No. There's a difference between differing views and singing about said different views.

I don't listen to Public Enemy for the same reason I don't listen to Prussian Blue.

Public Enemy are white supremacists who make unbearably boring music?

Duraddict · 07-15-2012, 10:22 PM

Exactly.

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But in all seriousness, I just can't support or enjoy music that's personally attacking me or sending across a message that I believe is 100% WRONG. Public Enemy fall under that category for homophobic lyrics and public statements. And if you cannot comprehend that, you head needs adjusting.

hip hop bunny hop · 07-16-2012, 06:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Duraddict

No. There's a difference between differing views and singing about said different views.

I don't listen to Public Enemy for the same reason I don't listen to Prussian Blue or Elephant Man. Why would I, as a practicing homosexual, want to listen to an artist who legitimately thinks I should be killed?

Your logic makes no sense.

So, what if a group makes statements you disagree with but doesnt put such messages in the music?

You seemed to hint that this would be unacceptable:

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Originally Posted by Duraddict

But in all seriousness, I just can't support or enjoy music that's personally attacking me or sending across a message that I believe is 100% WRONG. Public Enemy fall under that category for homophobic lyrics and public statements. And if you cannot comprehend that, you head needs adjusting.

bob. · 07-16-2012, 07:19 PM

does anybody really listen to Prussian Blue?.....i think even white supremacists find them to be a joke and annoying

Duraddict · 07-16-2012, 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by hip hop bunny hop

So, what if a group makes statements you disagree with but doesnt put such messages in the music?

You seemed to hint that this would be unacceptable:

Depends on the statement. Janet Jackson endorsed fur, which I disagree with, but I still listen to her music regularly.

But if, say, Torquil Campbell were to come out saying he hates gay people and wants them to be shot, I would erase him from my music library. Public Enemy made it very clear how they feel. I don't think they necessarily want me as a listener anyway.

We're very influenced by the music we listen to, and it really says a lot about the people we are. And I don't want any messages in the stuff I listen to that I don't agree with. I don't really see the point in trying to choke down a Public Enemy album.

Convince me of otherwise. Why should I listen to them in spite of their homophobic attitudes and lyrics?

**Janszoon** · 07-16-2012, 10:08 PM

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Convince me of otherwise. Why should I listen to them in spite of their homophobic attitudes and lyrics?

How about because they don't actually have homophobic lyrics? Listen to It Takes a Nation of Millions..., their breakthrough album, and see if you can find any homophobic lyrics. As far as I know there aren't any.

Duraddict · 07-16-2012, 10:41 PM

"'It only brings agony, ask James Cagney / He beat up on a guy when he found he was a f*gney / Cagney is a favorite he is my boy"

They, after doing some research, seem to have far more anti-semitic content. Lovely.

**Janszoon** · 07-16-2012, 10:48 PM

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"'It only brings agony, ask James Cagney / He beat up on a guy when he found he was a f*gney / Cagney is a favorite he is my boy"

^Which is not from the album I was referring to.

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Originally Posted by Duraddict

They, after doing some research, seem to have far more anti-semitic content. Lovely.

Also not on the album I am referring to.

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