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NEWGUY562 07-06-2012 12:57 AM

The Cure vs. The Smiths
 
I love both groups, their music shares a special part of my heart and are very sentimental to me.
(I found out about The Cure from my father he would always play their songs(Lullaby,Just Like Heaven,etc.) for me when I was a child..It brings back so many memories of going to Hollywood and special family moments..)
I found out about The Smiths from my oldest brother and I've been hooked to every album and song they did that is out :) Morrisey has such a unique and strong voice and that connects so well with the mood of their music.
This kind of reminds me of the whole "Who's better Beatles or Stones?..argument" , Who do you guys prefer /like most/listen to the most The Smiths or The Cure?

SGR 07-06-2012 05:45 AM

Smiths

Sansa Stark 07-06-2012 11:09 AM

The Smiths no ****ing contest

Goofle 07-06-2012 11:12 AM

The Smiths for me too. Never been a huge fan of The Cure, and I have tried with various albums.

Janszoon 07-06-2012 11:18 AM

The Cure. I like The Smiths but I don't find myself immersed in their music the way I do with The Cure, and nothing I'm aware of by them is anywhere close to as good as Disintegration. I do think Morrissey is a better lyricist than Robert Smith though. But Robert Smith is a better guitarist than Johnny Marr imo so I guess that kind of evens out.

Unknown Soldier 07-06-2012 11:23 AM

The Smiths might be better quality wise, but I'd sooner listen to the Cure anyday, so its the Cure.

FRED HALE SR. 07-06-2012 11:46 AM

Instrumentally I prefer the atmosphere of the Cure. I do find Morrisey's voice to be better then Smith's. I enjoy both catalogs but I think the Cures catalog has aged better. So Cure, anything to spite Paloma.

steve0211 07-06-2012 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by FRED HALE SR. (Post 1206229)
Instr I think the Cures catalog has aged better.

Having been a both a Smiths head and a Cure kid, I now sometimes find it hard to listen to the Smiths whine. :banghead:

Tristesse 07-06-2012 04:14 PM

The Cure! The Smiths are just depressing.

Unknown Soldier 07-06-2012 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by dazara (Post 1206267)
The Cure! The Smiths are just depressing.

If there were a poll, the Cure would be winning.

LoathsomePete 07-06-2012 06:50 PM

Just added one.

As for me it's The Cure all the way. I like a few Smiths songs but I've never been able to get into them as a band. The Cure on the other hand I can listen to all day and did quite a bit when I was 15.

Sansa Stark 07-06-2012 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by FRED HALE SR. (Post 1206229)
Instrumentally I prefer the atmosphere of the Cure. I do find Morrisey's voice to be better then Smith's. I enjoy both catalogs but I think the Cures catalog has aged better. So Cure, anything to spite Paloma.

There is no Paloma, there is only Zuul

Neapolitan 07-06-2012 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by NEWGUY562 (Post 1206134)
IThis kind of reminds me of the whole "Who's better Beatles or Stones?..argument" , Who do you guys prefer /like most/listen to the most The Smiths or The Cure?

Stop me if you heard this one before: The Smiths.
A bunch of different reasons, mainly Johnny Marr guitar playing >>>>>> Robert Smith's hair.

Janszoon 07-06-2012 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Neapolitan (Post 1206294)
Stop me if you heard this one before: The Smiths.
A bunch of different reasons, mainly Johnny Marr guitar playing >>>>>> Robert Smith's hair.

Stop me if you heard this one before: What do you get if you combine Johnny Marr and Morrissey? Something that's still not as good as Robert Smith all by his lonesome.

Sansa Stark 07-06-2012 07:49 PM

I know I say this everytime they're brought up, but the Cure has like 5 good songs. The Smiths have maybe 3 garbage songs.

Neapolitan 07-06-2012 07:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon (Post 1206297)
Stop me if you heard this one before: What do you get if you combine Johnny Marr and Morrissey? Something that's still not as good as Robert Smith all by his lonesome.

Stop me if you heard this one before: you might be right


Janszoon 07-06-2012 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Hermione (Post 1206301)
I know I say this everytime they're brought up, but the Cure has like 5 good songs. The Smiths have maybe 3 garbage songs.

Hahaha. No. The Cure have, like, more than 5 good albums

Sansa Stark 07-06-2012 07:57 PM

They have really MEH albums and a couple stand out songs, honestly. Although those songs are great, they're never be as good as the Smiths to me


but whoever said "the Smiths are too depressing" should be banned imo

Janszoon 07-06-2012 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Hermione (Post 1206304)
They have really MEH albums and a couple stand out songs, honestly. Although those songs are great, they're never be as good as the Smiths to me


but whoever said "the Smiths are too depressing" should be banned imo

I'm having a hard time imagining any of The Cure's first eight albums as being "meh", except The Top.

My biggest criticism of The Cure is just that they continued releasing music after 1989.

NEWGUY562 07-06-2012 08:21 PM


The Cure - Lullaby - YouTube

Vs.


The Smiths - This Charming Man - YouTube

NEWGUY562 07-06-2012 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon (Post 1206306)
I'm having a hard time imagining any of The Cure's first eight albums as being "meh", except The Top.

My biggest criticism of The Cure is just that they continued releasing music after 1989.

What about Wish or Wild Mood Swings? I like those very much :)

Janszoon 07-06-2012 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by NEWGUY562 (Post 1206324)
What about Wish or Wild Mood Swings? I like those very much :)

That's where they got lame, imo. They still had some decent songs here and there, but overall I'm not a fan of their post-80s career.

LoathsomePete 07-06-2012 08:50 PM

It took awhile but I started to really like their 2004 self-titled album.

NEWGUY562 07-06-2012 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by LoathsomePete (Post 1206326)
It took awhile but I started to really like their 2004 self-titled album.

That's my favorite album from their post 80's era :)

Rjinn 07-07-2012 01:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Hermione (Post 1206304)
but whoever said "the Smiths are too depressing" should be banned imo

Well I'm not banned yet. 👍

I find Smiths bland and boring, and tbh I have other biased reasons why I can't stand them.

The Cure for me.

anna1144 07-07-2012 02:50 AM

The Cure

Zer0 07-07-2012 03:44 AM

Oh boy where do I start? I guess f*ck you for making me choose. Really I love both bands to bits and both have played a huge part in making me who I am. But looking at both bands:

The Cure: I got into The Cure before The Smiths so their music has stuck with me the longest. No two Cure albums sound the same and therefore they have an incredibly varied and colourful discography compared to some bands who churn out nearly the same album every time. While not all their albums are classics, their 80's albums (apart from The Top) certainly are. They were hit and miss after that but I still enjoy Wish and their self-titled quite a bit. Robert Smith might not have the lyrical skills and wit of Morrissey but he has a voice that's unmistakable and is responsible for some of the most amazing guitar sounds I've ever heard, and of course some of the most amazings songs I've ever heard.

The Smiths: I seem to listen to The Smiths more than The Cure these days, although that could swing around within a few months. The Smiths give me a greater sense of isolation and outsiderism that is almost comforting and romantic in a way. The combination of Morrissey's lyrics and Johnny Marr's guitar playing is a match made in heaven and made them untouchable, that kind of chemistry cannot be matched very easily. Unlike The Cure who have probably released more albums than they should have, The Smiths had that perfect career where they didn't stick around and let their music become a shadow of their glory years, their short career was their glory years.

At the moment I'm not really that biased towards either band, but The Cure have been one of my favourite bands for a long time and their music has left a deeper imprint.

Janszoon 07-07-2012 04:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon (Post 1206306)
I'm having a hard time imagining any of The Cure's first eight albums as being "meh", except The Top.

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Originally Posted by Zer0 (Post 1206381)
While not all their albums are classics, their 80's albums (apart from The Top) certainly are.

:beer:

Zer0 07-07-2012 07:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon (Post 1206386)
:beer:

Good minds think alike :D

I think The Top was a messy and unfocused effort, even 'The Caterpiller' was a weak single compared to their other singles in the 80's. The Head On The Door felt like the rebirth of The Cure in a way.

Screen13 07-07-2012 03:11 PM

The Smiths. As much as I like The Cure's first 8 or 9 albums (and, yes, I might like The Top more than most possibly for being the mess that it is. "Shake Dog Shake" is still a favorite), The Smiths to me had a more solid collection of songs from start to finish. Johnny Marr's playing is something I always value highly, Morrissey's lyrics connected with a lot of their listeners, the humor was sharp, they had excellent singles (great A's and B's enough for many excellent collections), and they ended at the right time winding up a very iconic band. It's great that The Cure has continued for a long time, but music-wise, The Smiths were the band that had everything more right on target.

Forward To Death 07-07-2012 03:13 PM

The Cure. I adore Disintegration.

Ravenheart 07-08-2012 10:56 AM

This is tough. I absolutely adore both bands (as well as Morrissey's solo work), but The Cure will always come out on top for me. Disintegration might be my favorite album of all time.

NEWGUY562 07-10-2012 01:41 AM

So I'm definitely going to have to go with the smiths :) their music just makes me really happy whenever i listen to it...the cure's music drifts me off as soon as i hear it it's perfect before i go to sleep..

fiftiesmusicforever 07-10-2012 04:10 AM

The smiths!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!

FRED HALE SR. 07-10-2012 12:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon (Post 1206325)
That's where they got lame, imo. They still had some decent songs here and there, but overall I'm not a fan of their post-80s career.

I found Wish to be a great album. I honestly like the entire album less two songs. I prefer their previous discography but I don't find Wish to be lame in the slightest. The song Trust guts me everytime.

jackhammer 07-10-2012 04:07 PM

The Cure for the musical diversity. Easy equation I own The Smiths Singles on CD but 6 Cure CD's (although both bands discographies on MP3) but The Smiths are great when I am in the right frame of mind.

Zer0 07-10-2012 04:07 PM

There's some great songs on Wish but they should have really trimmed the running time back a bit, maybe cut 'Wendy Time' and 'End'. Sure it's not as adventurous and engaging as their previous albums but songs like 'Letter To Elise', 'High' and 'Apart' are great songs. But I suppose coming after Disintegration it probably would have been a disappointment for Cure fans at the time, let's face it nothing can top that.

I really love some of the b-sides from the Wish era, some of them were even better than some songs on the album.


Sparky 07-11-2012 02:03 PM

The smiths all the way.

Both bands have the upper echelon of douche bag in their frontman, but i will take morrisey's cheekiness over robert smiths gothic sadness.

Smiths have funner singles

LaraP 07-11-2012 04:11 PM

The Smiths, though it's a tough call. I loved both of them growing up, but I love Morrissey.

Janszoon 07-11-2012 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by A$AP Sparky (Post 1207688)
Smiths have funner singles

What could be more fun than F-I-R-E I-N C-A-I-R-O?



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