The Various Compilations Request Thread

Trollheart · 06-22-2012, 06:36 PM

Yeah, I know we have a thread for compos, and also MB's Most Wanted, but this is a different idea.

Basically it's aimed at people who want to get into certain bands via a few tracks. It's very easy to misunderstand an artiste by choosing the wrong album, track(s) or era of their music. I personally like Kamelot, but their first two albums are pretty bad, and had I started with those I might not have got to the better stuff. Similarly, everyone keeps telling me Pain of Salvation are great, but I was totally underwhelmed by "One hour by the concrete lake": I'm told that was a bad starting point.

Now, of course I could listen to albums recommended, but I've already got thousands backed up, so my idea would be to select a few artistes (no real limit, but remember people will be giving up both their valuable time and perhaps more valuable expertise to try to help you, so cut them some slack) and have those who know these artistes compile a few tracks (2 or 3, maybe more, totally up to the person compiling) that they can put on a link for the person to download. Then they can listen to these, the tracks considered the best or most representative of the artiste(s) and decide if they want to go further on their own, or if this artiste really isn't for them.

I would prefer downloadable files instead of links to YouTubes personally, as I would like to listen to the music away from my computer, while out, and so on, and YT restricts you to the PC of course; also the best tracks from certain artistes may not be on YT. There's also nothing wrong with two or more people collaborating on or contributing to a comp: say one person knows a lot about, oh let's say Opeth, while another is very familiar with Public Enemy. Both are requested by the one poster. These people can each contribute to the comp, if they want.

Of course, if one person has all the music and knowledge required for the comp, then there's no reason why they can't do it themselves. Limits can be set, dictated, changed or agreed on by one or both parties (requester and provider) but the final decision should lie with the latter, as they're the one who's going to be putting in the time.

This all relies on people being good enough to give their time, being knowledgeable enough about the artistes to provide a proper "sampler", and most importantly, the understanding on the part of the requester that they don't have exclusive call on that person's time, and will have to wait until they complete the request.

I'm happy to be the first to offer my services, if anyone wants anything I have (most of my musical taste can be discerned by reading through my journal, but in general it's rock, prog rock, metal, prog metal, some pop and a little country, classical and instrumental; though of course that's only really scratching the surface). Requests can be made in the thread, and anyone who wants to take on the job just respond, preferably in the main thread to prevent two people ending up fulfilling the same request.

Anyone fancy this?

Personally, I'd be interested in hearing some
Tool, King Crimson, Gentle Giant, Camel and maybe Dream Theater? Oh yeah, and some Pain of Salvation: go on, you know you want to get me into them!

Urban Hat€monger ? · 06-22-2012, 07:40 PM

I don't get how this is any different to the other thread you started a few years ago that's still going.

Trollheart · 06-22-2012, 08:13 PM

Well, it's different because that other thread is for "starter" compilations for one band; you compile the best tracks from a particular artiste and people can download that. THIS is for a few tracks from several artistes, so that in effect you end up with a comp of say 10 or 20 tracks from maybe 6 or 7 bands you want to get into, in order to get a flavour of the best of each.

It's various artists, basically, in the same comp. It's to help you decide if you like a few different artistes in the one comp. Rather than, for instance, me asking someone to compile a list of Tool songs, then later a list of KC songs, I (or anyone else) asks for songs from Tool, Crimson and whoever else I'm interested in.

Plus, it's a request thread, wheras the other one is just for people to post as they feel like.

I think the differences are pretty obvious really; I thought I had made that clear in the intro?

Dr_Rez · 06-22-2012, 08:26 PM

Also dont most bands have greatest hits albums that are essentially that?

Trollheart · 06-23-2012, 05:59 AM

Sure, but you're still thinking in terms of one band. I'm talking about getting a few tracks --- two, three, maybe four --- from a number of artistes, so that you can get into (or not) several bands at once. If you go down the greatest hits route, you need to buy, say three albums from bands you may or may not end up liking.

In my case: I would have to buy Tool's greatest hits, King Crimson's greatest hits and Pain of Salvation's greatest hits at the least, in order to get into these three bands, using your suggestion. Assuming all these bands have greatest hits albums: not every one does. Or I could ask someone to put together the three or four tracks that best represent these bands, in one comp, so that I can listen and judge, see if it's worth going further.

Look, this wasn't meant to be, as Basil Fawlty once declared, a proposal from Lichtenstein. I thought it was fairly self-explanatory. But if no-one's interested then fine, I just thought it would be an idea. Maybe it won't fly. No big deal.

I'm still available though if anyone wants to take up the offer.

OOS · 06-23-2012, 10:14 AM

I think that this is a great idea, however I have almost no knowledge of the bands that you posted about. Hopefully someone with a bit more experience there can jump in and get this started.

jackhammer · 06-27-2012, 06:27 PM

If someone could do me a comp featuring the likes of Tad, Helmet, The Melvins etc I would be happy.

Being a young father in the 90's, music had to take a back seat a lot of the time so there is a shedload of music out there that I would love to hear.

bob. · 06-27-2012, 06:37 PM

LEE!......i would love to make you a comp of all the great 90s noise rock type stuff.....do you have a song limit?....i tend to go a little over board

jackhammer · 06-27-2012, 06:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bob.

LEE!......i would love to make you a comp of all the great 90s noise rock type stuff.....do you have a song limit?....i tend to go a little over board

No just throw it all on

Much appreciated and no rush either, take your time!

bob. · 06-27-2012, 07:48 PM

it will be EPIC!

06-22-2012, 06:36 PM	#1 (permalink)
Trollheart Born to be mild Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 404 Not Found Posts: 26,994	The Various Compilations Request Thread Yeah, I know we have a thread for compos, and also MB's Most Wanted, but this is a different idea. Basically it's aimed at people who want to get into certain bands via a few tracks. It's very easy to misunderstand an artiste by choosing the wrong album, track(s) or era of their music. I personally like Kamelot, but their first two albums are pretty bad, and had I started with those I might not have got to the better stuff. Similarly, everyone keeps telling me Pain of Salvation are great, but I was totally underwhelmed by "One hour by the concrete lake": I'm told that was a bad starting point. Now, of course I could listen to albums recommended, but I've already got thousands backed up, so my idea would be to select a few artistes (no real limit, but remember people will be giving up both their valuable time and perhaps more valuable expertise to try to help you, so cut them some slack) and have those who know these artistes compile a few tracks (2 or 3, maybe more, totally up to the person compiling) that they can put on a link for the person to download. Then they can listen to these, the tracks considered the best or most representative of the artiste(s) and decide if they want to go further on their own, or if this artiste really isn't for them. I would prefer downloadable files instead of links to YouTubes personally, as I would like to listen to the music away from my computer, while out, and so on, and YT restricts you to the PC of course; also the best tracks from certain artistes may not be on YT. There's also nothing wrong with two or more people collaborating on or contributing to a comp: say one person knows a lot about, oh let's say Opeth, while another is very familiar with Public Enemy. Both are requested by the one poster. These people can each contribute to the comp, if they want. Of course, if one person has all the music and knowledge required for the comp, then there's no reason why they can't do it themselves. Limits can be set, dictated, changed or agreed on by one or both parties (requester and provider) but the final decision should lie with the latter, as they're the one who's going to be putting in the time. This all relies on people being good enough to give their time, being knowledgeable enough about the artistes to provide a proper "sampler", and most importantly, the understanding on the part of the requester that they don't have exclusive call on that person's time, and will have to wait until they complete the request. I'm happy to be the first to offer my services, if anyone wants anything I have (most of my musical taste can be discerned by reading through my journal, but in general it's rock, prog rock, metal, prog metal, some pop and a little country, classical and instrumental; though of course that's only really scratching the surface). Requests can be made in the thread, and anyone who wants to take on the job just respond, preferably in the main thread to prevent two people ending up fulfilling the same request. Anyone fancy this? Personally, I'd be interested in hearing some Tool, King Crimson, Gentle Giant, Camel and maybe Dream Theater? Oh yeah, and some Pain of Salvation: go on, you know you want to get me into them! __________________ Trollheart: Signature-free since April 2018

06-22-2012, 07:40 PM	#2 (permalink)
Urban Hat€monger ? The Sexual Intellectual Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Somewhere cooler than you Posts: 18,605	I don't get how this is any different to the other thread you started a few years ago that's still going. __________________ Urb's RYM Stuff Most people sell their soul to the devil, but the devil sells his soul to Nick Cave.

06-22-2012, 08:13 PM	#3 (permalink)
Trollheart Born to be mild Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 404 Not Found Posts: 26,994	Well, it's different because that other thread is for "starter" compilations for one band; you compile the best tracks from a particular artiste and people can download that. THIS is for a few tracks from several artistes, so that in effect you end up with a comp of say 10 or 20 tracks from maybe 6 or 7 bands you want to get into, in order to get a flavour of the best of each. It's various artists, basically, in the same comp. It's to help you decide if you like a few different artistes in the one comp. Rather than, for instance, me asking someone to compile a list of Tool songs, then later a list of KC songs, I (or anyone else) asks for songs from Tool, Crimson and whoever else I'm interested in. Plus, it's a request thread, wheras the other one is just for people to post as they feel like. I think the differences are pretty obvious really; I thought I had made that clear in the intro? __________________ Trollheart: Signature-free since April 2018

06-22-2012, 08:26 PM	#4 (permalink)
Dr_Rez Registered Jimmy Rustler Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: USA Posts: 5,360	Also dont most bands have greatest hits albums that are essentially that? __________________ Best chance of losing virginity is in prison crew Always Checks Credentials Crew nba > nfl crew Shave one of my legs to pretend its a girl in my bed crew

06-23-2012, 05:59 AM	#5 (permalink)
Trollheart Born to be mild Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: 404 Not Found Posts: 26,994	Sure, but you're still thinking in terms of one band. I'm talking about getting a few tracks --- two, three, maybe four --- from a number of artistes, so that you can get into (or not) several bands at once. If you go down the greatest hits route, you need to buy, say three albums from bands you may or may not end up liking. In my case: I would have to buy Tool's greatest hits, King Crimson's greatest hits and Pain of Salvation's greatest hits at the least, in order to get into these three bands, using your suggestion. Assuming all these bands have greatest hits albums: not every one does. Or I could ask someone to put together the three or four tracks that best represent these bands, in one comp, so that I can listen and judge, see if it's worth going further. Look, this wasn't meant to be, as Basil Fawlty once declared, a proposal from Lichtenstein. I thought it was fairly self-explanatory. But if no-one's interested then fine, I just thought it would be an idea. Maybe it won't fly. No big deal. I'm still available though if anyone wants to take up the offer. __________________ Trollheart: Signature-free since April 2018

06-23-2012, 10:14 AM	#6 (permalink)
OOS Music Addict Join Date: Dec 2008 Posts: 124	I think that this is a great idea, however I have almost no knowledge of the bands that you posted about. Hopefully someone with a bit more experience there can jump in and get this started.

06-27-2012, 06:27 PM	#7 (permalink)
jackhammer Ba and Be. Join Date: May 2007 Location: This Is England Posts: 17,331	If someone could do me a comp featuring the likes of Tad, Helmet, The Melvins etc I would be happy. Being a young father in the 90's, music had to take a back seat a lot of the time so there is a shedload of music out there that I would love to hear. __________________ It be my music and film collection. “A cynic by experience, a romantic by inclination and now a hero by necessity.”

06-27-2012, 06:37 PM	#8 (permalink)
bob. Still sends his reguards. Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Trying to get out of the cat town.... Posts: 5,039	LEE!......i would love to make you a comp of all the great 90s noise rock type stuff.....do you have a song limit?....i tend to go a little over board __________________ A kiss is the beginning of cannibalism. Reach out, pierce the fine fabric of the sheltering sky, take repose.

06-27-2012, 07:48 PM	#10 (permalink)
bob. Still sends his reguards. Join Date: Jun 2010 Location: Trying to get out of the cat town.... Posts: 5,039	it will be EPIC! __________________ A kiss is the beginning of cannibalism. Reach out, pierce the fine fabric of the sheltering sky, take repose.