What do you think of this generation of music?

Forward To Death · 06-21-2012, 06:17 AM

Yeah, this is all about nostalgic subjectivity. IMO, no decade is particularly superior than any other. At least now we have ways of getting any music via the internet.

Will definitely agree that mainstream is at it's low-point though.

Holerbot6000 · 06-21-2012, 06:38 AM

Yeah I think that's the key point. Back in the 70's, if you lived in a small town or isolated situation, if you didn't like what was on the radio, you were pretty much screwed. We were lucky in that radio still played Beatles/Stones/Zeppelin, but we had to wade through a lot of awful Styx/Journey/etc. too and we had no idea stuff like No Wave or Beefheart was going on at all. We couldn't just go to the internet and listen to whatever we wanted from all over the freakin' world.

On top of that, we had to walk 30 miles through 10 feet of snow to get to school and eat hot asphalt for breakfast and the weed wasn't as good as it is now. It was hell...

Seriously though, it's never been easier to explore new music so there's no excuse not to try and find your own way. It's easy to hate on the normals but that just means you care more about them then they care about you.

Vertigo · 06-21-2012, 07:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon

How is that any different from now? There's a massive variety of music out there today, including styles that didn't even exist in the 80s and 90s, and there are always lots of people touring. I'm forever in the situation of having less time and money available than there are good shows to see.

Erm...where did I mention lack of variety?

I said that I (key word there) miss the fact that the metal/rock scene was better in the late 80's early 90's than it is now.

And, personally speaking, there is never anyone touring that I want to see. The last gig I went to was Pearl Jam in 2009 (Ordinarily I would have been going tonight but financial and personal circumstances mean I can't.)

Truth be told, I'm being overly nostalgic

Eyrothath · 06-21-2012, 07:32 AM

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Yeah I don't think I would've been much for Power Metal back in the 90's either. BUT THAT'S JUST ME! My 90's experience was all about traveling, playing Quake and collecting Merzbow cd's.

Mad props to my Metal brothers though - you guys are always SERIOUS music fans who really know your stuff. I really respect that.

I myself am a huge fan of blues rock and not just power metal, I am into folk music and everything else old or new, but growing up I am more into the modern stuff, the stuff I want to succeed and that I want to see playing live.. I can't seem to enjoy music out of someone who has been dead for 20 years, I like the music from back then, but I want to support today's bands.. I am into anything classical as well, not just the same renditions of opera music either..

One of the best hard rock, blue influenced bands would have to be The Answer.. Their music video only has 100,000 views while the newest Justin Beaver has 81 million already (and it just came out.) This is proof that the music world is indeed broken..

The best folk rock band of our time I say would have to be Blackmore's Night..

And if you want a brand new band that resembles a CLASSIC rock band, Black Spiders does a good job mixing it up..

NAVEL is a Swiss GRUNGE band, they resemble Nirvana heavily.. So if you're into 90's grunge music, this is who you should support..

Wait.. You like Arena rock? We got that in today's world as well..

I mean, the old stuff is fine, I have respect for it, but newer bands will never, ever grow if that is all we decide to like and pretend that there is nothing new out there that resembles that decade of music, just like Navel, who is clearly a grunge band (are they on the radio?) Nope, that is because that decade has passed, the old stuff is still played while the newer bands are shot down...

Mainstream rock music is currently in an Alternative Metal phase, I call it mall metal since that is pretty much Five Finger Death Punch is, one of the newer more known alternative metal bands, they are good, but not enough melody or classical influence for me and the lyrics I just cannot relate to in anyway, which is why I love Power Metal, lots of classical influence in the more symphonic metal bands.. Symohonic metal and rock music sadly, is the only genre that currently features classical music besides classical music itself, which is not very well known today.. Heather Dale and Celtic Woman are good examples of celtic music that doesn't feature any rock or metal..

Just like Folk music is becoming big in Folk Metal.. It's growing huge in Russia.. Some bands will put out acoustic folk albums on occasion, Eluveitie, Elvenking and Folkodia have all done it, I can honestly say I like their acoustic albums more than their metal tracks, but it is not as popular as metal has a far more wide range of audience than anything else.. If you're going to play folk music, you might as well play folk metal, if you're going to be classic music, you might as well play neo-classical metal, that is where your audience is..

Where else are you going to get to see a live band featuring flutes and bagpipes? They came all the way to Arizona from Russia and put on an amazing show..

For classical music, a lot of people (you don't even have to like metal.) Are really into Trans-Siberian Orchestra and you see a wide variety of people at their shows..

Really, people need to stop being so damn picky.. There is SOMETHING for everyone in today's world of music..

**Janszoon** · 06-21-2012, 07:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Vertigo

Erm...where did I mention lack of variety?

I figured this was a reference to variety:

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Whatever you were into, from hair metal to thrash, there was loads to choose from...

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Originally Posted by Vertigo

I said that I (key word there) miss the fact that the metal/rock scene was better in the late 80's early 90's than it is now.

Really? 80s and early 90s stuff was my introduction to metal and it has a special place in my heart, but I actually think there's far better quality metal being released today.

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Originally Posted by Vertigo

And, personally speaking, there is never anyone touring that I want to see. The last gig I went to was Pearl Jam in 2009 (Ordinarily I would have been going tonight but financial and personal circumstances mean I can't.)

I'm happy I can't relate.

To me it seems like there's always a show on the horizon that I'd like to go to, both by current bands and bands I liked back in the 80s and 90s. Heck, Corrosion of Conformity is playing walking distance from my house this coming Monday.

14232949 · 06-21-2012, 08:05 AM

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Originally Posted by mr dave

Take the nostalgia filter off. There was just as much crap back in the day as there is now. Finding the good stuff meant having to dig a little deeper as it always has. The main difference is that most of the crap doesn't get replayed forward.

Plus teenagers complaining about hating their own generation of music and trying to kiss up to Led Zep, The Stones and Pink Floyd sounds like they're trying to impress their grandparents. Rock music is about rebellion - grow the guts to go out there and find your own sound. I absolutely guarantee it exists and is out there, you just need to work a little to find it.

Yeah what Mr Dave said, the original poster should follow my example.
I say to **** with the old fogey ****, 2k12's where it's at.
Get with the times man.

TheBig3 · 06-21-2012, 08:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon

How is that any different from now? There's a massive variety of music out there today, including styles that didn't even exist in the 80s and 90s, and there are always lots of people touring. I'm forever in the situation of having less time and money available than there are good shows to see.

If I can play thought police for a minute - I think its less about music being available, or even good, and more about a cultural hegemony that favored the OP's own aesthetic appeal rather than have a cultural landscape that questions it, or makes it the minority.

**Janszoon** · 06-21-2012, 08:08 AM

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Originally Posted by mankycaaant

Yeah what Mr Dave said, the original poster should follow my example.
I say to **** with the old fogey ****, 2k12's where it's at.
Get with the times man.

Please check back in with me in fifteen or twenty years. I'll be interested to see if you have discarded all your 2012 music as "old fogey shit" by then.

Vertigo · 06-21-2012, 08:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Janszoon

I figured this was a reference to variety:

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Really? 80s and early 90s stuff was my introduction to metal and it has a special place in my heart, but I actually think there's far better quality metal being released today.

I'm happy I can't relate.

To me it seems like there's always a show on the horizon that I'd like to go to, both by current bands and bands I liked back in the 80s and 90s. Heck, Corrosion of Conformity is playing walking distance from my house this coming Monday.

Hmmm, apologies - I thought you were referring to music as a whole.

Yeah, I much preferred the buzz of the late 80's and early 90's. I can't seem to relate to modern day metal like I could then. Mind you, I was younger then (a bit) and was really into the metal scene. As I've mentioned in a previous post, I haven't exactly had my finger on the pulse for the past few years.

Forward To Death · 06-21-2012, 08:21 AM

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Originally Posted by mankycaaant

Yeah what Mr Dave said, the original poster should follow my example.
I say to **** with the old fogey ****, 2k12's where it's at.
Get with the times man.

This is the extreme from the other direction.

06-21-2012, 06:17 AM	#41 (permalink)
Forward To Death Trolier Than Thou Join Date: Mar 2012 Location: Minnesota Posts: 1,336	Yeah, this is all about nostalgic subjectivity. IMO, no decade is particularly superior than any other. At least now we have ways of getting any music via the internet. Will definitely agree that mainstream is at it's low-point though.

06-21-2012, 06:38 AM	#42 (permalink)
Holerbot6000 Music Mutant Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: near a record store Posts: 327	Yeah I think that's the key point. Back in the 70's, if you lived in a small town or isolated situation, if you didn't like what was on the radio, you were pretty much screwed. We were lucky in that radio still played Beatles/Stones/Zeppelin, but we had to wade through a lot of awful Styx/Journey/etc. too and we had no idea stuff like No Wave or Beefheart was going on at all. We couldn't just go to the internet and listen to whatever we wanted from all over the freakin' world. On top of that, we had to walk 30 miles through 10 feet of snow to get to school and eat hot asphalt for breakfast and the weed wasn't as good as it is now. It was hell... Seriously though, it's never been easier to explore new music so there's no excuse not to try and find your own way. It's easy to hate on the normals but that just means you care more about them then they care about you.