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Old 05-20-2012, 02:21 PM   #31 (permalink)
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I just thought to myself that maybe today's music can be compared to the 80's. In the 80's, slick production really took off so everyone really hit on a similar sound. Pop music these days is similar...slick production has now been introduced to the masses for cheap, so now everyone wants that dancey-dubsteppy-club ready sounding kind of tune. I just heard an add for J. Lo's new album on Spotify, and sure enough it sounds very derivative of the current sound. I've heard Pop songs playing and they have really random ass bass drops...what is the need for that?

I think this is where the hindsight thing might come in...we can look back at the 80's and pick out the stuff that lasted like the Smiths, Tears for Fears, etc but at the time it was probably really hard to tell what the classics were going to be. Maybe that's where we are at right now and I should just be patient.

Still...I just really want a timeless modern classic. I've been aching for one.
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Old 05-20-2012, 02:27 PM   #32 (permalink)
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I think Funeral has a really good shot at standing as a classic album of the 00s. Same with For Emma, Forever Ago, and obviously Kid A (though it's narrowly an 00s album).

On the same note, I think Merriweather Post Pavillion and My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy received more acclaim than either album deserved, and in hindsight won't have much of a lasting impact.
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Old 05-20-2012, 03:49 PM   #33 (permalink)
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The problem is albums like Shabazz Palaces "Black Up" won't go down as all time classics because they aren't known enough.
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Old 05-20-2012, 05:34 PM   #34 (permalink)
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The problem is albums like Shabazz Palaces "Black Up" won't go down as all time classics because they aren't known enough.
What becomes regarded as a classic isn't necessarily related to how popular it was when it came out. There are a lot of album from the 90s that get referred to as classics around here that, frankly, I had never heard of (or was only dimly aware of) when they came out.
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Old 05-20-2012, 05:54 PM   #35 (permalink)
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I agree with that point, but what I am saying is that there isn't a hope in hell that an album like Black Up would gain Legendary status in the wider world, like what happened with The Smiths and Tears For Fears (to use duga's example).

It's just the World we live in now. And as Pedestrian said, the albums that gain mega hype, such as MBDTF and MWPP aren't even that great. (and I would argue the same for pretty much all globally encapsulating albums in the past)
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Old 05-20-2012, 06:14 PM   #36 (permalink)
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I think when people say "music is dead, or "music isn't culture defining anymore" they are mainly talking about rock, and traditional pop music. And that is true, rock and traditional pop doesn't define our culture anymore. I'm 16 and I think that we're living ina great time for music. Lots of fantastic hip hop, dance, pop and yes, even dubstep albums and songs have came out in the past few years. When I think of music that is going to be remembered as important to todays generation, I think of stuff like Skrillex(as dumb as that sounds, I know dub/brostep isn't very popular here, but I genuinely think he's one of the most interesting pop artists the world has had in a while) and dudes like Clams Casino, just because they are creating new sounds, and are making music at least interesting again instead of re-hashing the past.
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Old 05-20-2012, 06:23 PM   #37 (permalink)
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I agree with that point, but what I am saying is that there isn't a hope in hell that an album like Black Up would gain Legendary status in the wider world, like what happened with The Smiths and Tears For Fears (to use duga's example).

It's just the World we live in now. And as Pedestrian said, the albums that gain mega hype, such as MBDTF and MWPP aren't even that great. (and I would argue the same for pretty much all globally encapsulating albums in the past)
Not sure I understand what you're getting at. How is what you're describing any different from how things went in the past?
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Old 05-20-2012, 07:10 PM   #38 (permalink)
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Not sure I understand what you're getting at. How is what you're describing any different from how things went in the past?
Yeah, I realised half way through that there wasn't much difference between past and present and ended up confusing myself.
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Old 05-21-2012, 02:49 AM   #39 (permalink)
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the future of music is point click drag and drop :P

Seriously there are skilled musicians/producers who are they do is exceal at making music from any genre ...all the do is go to the studio everyday they have every toy and gadget at there finger tips and they make music ..like a 9 to 5 job

and they sell there music to the artist ... they never go on tour or play it live they just stay in the super studio and make music a Music factory

this is the present of music
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I don't think there needs to be such an album any more. The internet has allowed for more selective tastes.
Right, the idea of a "universal" album that everyone owns and likes is a thing of the past and will never return. Music is so fragmented now and everyone listens to their own "thing" in their own little bubble. There are thousands of bands out there we have access to and there's simply too many of them to stand out or for everyone to come to a universal consensus on. Once the internet hit, those times disappeared.
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