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Old 05-04-2012, 03:24 PM   #1 (permalink)
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The Beatles were a short lived phenomenon, great recording musicians. .
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short lived? What would you consider long lived and still relevant?
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Old 05-04-2012, 05:32 PM   #2 (permalink)
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short lived? What would you consider long lived and still relevant?
i think he means bands like The Who and Yes

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Old 05-04-2012, 11:23 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Rolling Stones - years active - 1962–present

"Genres: Rock, blues, blues rock, rhythm and blues, rock and roll"

"On 23 May 2010, the re-issue of Exile on Main St. stormed at No. 1 in the UK charts, almost 38 years to the week after it first occupied that position"

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The Beatles - Years active 1960–1970

"Genres: Rock, pop"

Love, a remix album of music recorded by The Beatles, released in November 2006. "Love placed at #3 in the UK Albums Chart during its first week of release. It was also successful in the United States, debuting at #4 in the Billboard 200"

I did see Cirque du Soleil's "Love" in Las Vegas, an awesome performance.
I like how the Stones play so many sub-genres of rock, and the Beatles only play rock in general.

I'm not a fan of using record sales to show band greatness, but I'll give you home-thread advantage. If I remember correctly, the Beatles are the second highest selling artist of the 2000's (Eminem was #1). And they were the only non-active group in the top ten. What would you attribute that to?
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Old 05-05-2012, 12:05 AM   #4 (permalink)
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The Beatles - Years active 1960–1970

"Genres: Rock, pop"
Wha...? The Beatles played plenty of sub-genres of Rock and other genres of music. If you only went on wikipedia you would know that they are responsible for things like Heavy Metal, Grunge and Space Rock among other things.

The Beatles played:
  • Avant Garde
  • Beat Music
  • Blues
  • Country
  • String Quartet
  • R&B/Motown
  • Rock and Roll
  • Rock
  • Hard Rock
  • Soft Rock
  • Blues Rock
  • Country Rock
  • Show Tunes Rock
  • Psychedelic Rock
  • Space Rock
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Old 05-05-2012, 12:54 AM   #5 (permalink)
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Wha...? The Beatles played plenty of sub-genres of Rock and other genres of music. If you only went on wikipedia you would know that they are responsible for things like Heavy Metal, Grunge and Space Rock among other things.

The Beatles played:
  • Avant Garde
  • Beat Music
  • Blues
  • Country
  • String Quartet
  • R&B/Motown
  • Rock and Roll
  • Rock
  • Hard Rock
  • Soft Rock
  • Blues Rock
  • Country Rock
  • Show Tunes Rock
  • Psychedelic Rock
  • Space Rock
To add to that, The Beatles were the pioneers of a large majority of the genres we listen to today. Evident from the genres you listed.

EDIT: I just read your post again and realized you had already stated that. My baaaaad.
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To add to that, The Beatles were the pioneers of a large majority of the genres we listen to today. Evident from the genres you listed.

EDIT: I just read your post again and realized you had already stated that. My baaaaad.
I'm pretty sure his post was tongue-in-cheek.

They definitely were not "the pioneers of a large majority of the genres we listen to today". Jazz? Blues? Hip hop? Country? R&B? Reggae? Ska? Salsa? Classical? Show tunes? Opera? Bluegrass? Rockabilly? Electronica? Folk? Hardcore? Extreme metal? Avant-Garde? Sorry, but I don't see it. They drew influence from a few of those genres but they weren't the pioneers of them.
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I'm pretty sure his post was tongue-in-cheek.

They definitely were not "the pioneers of a large majority of the genres we listen to today". Jazz? Blues? Hip hop? Country? R&B? Reggae? Ska? Salsa? Classical? Show tunes? Opera? Bluegrass? Rockabilly? Electronica? Folk? Hardcore? Extreme metal? Avant-Garde? Sorry, but I don't see it. They drew influence from a few of those genres but they weren't the pioneers of them.
Maybe pioneering wasn't the right phrasing, but The Beatles were responsible for taking genres to a whole new level.

There's a reason Sgt Pepper is one of the greatest albums of all time. They continued to bring their sound to new lengths, and that album alone was evidence of that.
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I'm pretty sure his post was tongue-in-cheek.

They definitely were not "the pioneers of a large majority of the genres we listen to today". Jazz? Blues? Hip hop? Country? R&B? Reggae? Ska? Salsa? Classical? Show tunes? Opera? Bluegrass? Rockabilly? Electronica? Folk? Hardcore? Extreme metal? Avant-Garde? Sorry, but I don't see it. They drew influence from a few of those genres but they weren't the pioneers of them.
there are traces of ska in "All I've Got to Do"

and avant-garde in "Revolution 9"

half of Yellow Submarine can be considered "classical"

not pioneered, but they nearly explored every genre
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Maybe pioneering wasn't the right phrasing, but The Beatles were responsible for taking genres to a whole new level.
What genres would you say they took to a whole new level?
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The Beatles - Years active 1960–1970

"Genres: Rock, pop"
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Wha...? The Beatles played plenty of sub-genres of Rock and other genres of music. If you only went on wikipedia you would know that they are responsible for things like Heavy Metal, Grunge and Space Rock among other things.

The Beatles played:
  • Avant Garde
  • Beat Music
  • Blues
  • Country
  • String Quartet
  • R&B/Motown
  • Rock and Roll
  • Rock
  • Hard Rock
  • Soft Rock
  • Blues Rock
  • Country Rock
  • Show Tunes Rock
  • Psychedelic Rock
  • Space Rock
The quote I posted (The Beatles - Years active 1960–1970 "Genres: Rock, pop") is from wikipedia. Personally I always considered the Beatles to be a Pop Band, especially their early stuff. To get a better understanding of what you are saying, last night I went back to wiki and did some reading on the subject and now understand your point.

"Author Dominic Pedler describes the way they crossed genres: "One of [their] greatest ... achievements was the songwriting juggling act they managed for most of their career. Far from moving sequentially from one genre to another (as is sometimes conveniently suggested) the group maintained in parallel their mastery of the traditional, catchy chart hit while simultaneously forging rock and dabbling with a wide range of peripheral influences from Country to vaudeville."
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