Why is Madonna so overrated?

Salami · 12-26-2011, 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by TheBig3

Katy Perrys output is much better than Gaga. She isn't a ****ing shill that panders to the homosexual community.

Surely output isn't measured in who the intended audience is?

And no, why do people keep calling you a troll? You're like, the oldest member here?

**Goofle** · 12-26-2011, 03:45 PM

People assume she (I am assuming gender) is a troll because she says things like that. Katy Perry's output is better because she doesn't pander to homosexuals. The same woman who created the masterpieces that are "I Kissed a Girl" and "Ur So Gay" isn't pandering, unlike Lady Gaga who... apparently does?

TheBig3 · 12-26-2011, 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by TomClancy11

People assume she (I am assuming gender) is a troll because she says things like that. Katy Perry's output is better because she doesn't pander to homosexuals. The same woman who created the masterpieces that are "I Kissed a Girl" and "Ur So Gay" isn't pandering, unlike Lady Gaga who... apparently does?

Well first of all yes, I am a female.

Secondly, if you want to have this conversation, start a thread.

**Goofle** · 12-26-2011, 03:50 PM

I don't really.

**Janszoon** · 12-28-2011, 05:02 AM

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Originally Posted by eraser.time206

Why obsess in the first place?

Why not?

Howard the Duck · 12-28-2011, 05:05 AM

about Gaga, i just rewatched the "Edge of Glory" music video

she's looking and sounding more and more "ho hum" these days

simonbrew · 12-28-2011, 07:13 AM

madonna is pretty lame, i mean shes a pop star and nothing ore...oh and also a crappy actress when people do allow her in movies, anyone who takes criticism of her too seriously - clearly cant see a perspective of her outside that lame ass fanbase.

mr dave · 12-28-2011, 03:00 PM

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Originally Posted by eraser.time206

She is one of the best selling artist of all time without deserving it.

Her fans are very rigorous in defending her. I've never been able to see how people liked her so much. I understand liking her music to a certain degree but why the over zealousness?

Edit: Why do her fans obsess themselves with her so much?

Wow. Is it even possible to start a more biased thread? How is there even any room for discussion? What are you looking for besides having your opinion celebrated by posting this?

First off, how are you able to ascertain with certainty that she is in fact overrated?

How is it that she's undeserving of the commercial success of her product? She was FAR more involved with her music career and its success than most average CEOs are within their corporations. Why shouldn't she get as big of a cut of the profits as she can?

*adjusts pretentious old man hipster hat*

... are you even old enough to remember what the average female pop star was 'expected' to be before Madonna started her career?

TheBig3 nails it, you want to hate her for being incredibly arrogant and superficial (the fake accent same as Gwyneth Paltrow) DO IT UP. You want to despise her for making volunteers at a film festival face the wall while she walked down a hallway. VALID REASON. And while her skin looks to have the texture of freezer burnt bacon I seem to remember her being kind of hot back in the late 80s.

But to hate on her because she spearheaded and capitalized upon a drastic change to pop music that doesn't suit your tastes and sensibilities? boo hoo

wait...

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Originally Posted by eraser.time206

Lady Gaga's music is average but her individual talent far surpasses Madonna. If she really wanted to she could make very good music but she (like many other artists) is too concerned with money and fame to take that route.

WAT!?!?!

Lady Gaga would have exactly 0 of her career if it weren't for Madonna. Child 'prodigy' / Tori Amos clone or not (you remember Fiona Apple?). The only reason there were doors open wide enough for her to get the footing to start the career she has now are directly 100% related to Madonna.

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As for the final question as to why do her fans obsess themselves with Madonna so much. You do realize the very same question could just as easily be applied to The Beatles right?

RMR · 12-28-2011, 03:18 PM

I said a a few weeks ago or whenever this thread started that I don't mind Madonna's output and enjoy quite a bit of her catalog. I'm not a super-fan or anything, but if Michael Jackson is the King of pop, I would certainly call her the Queen.

Anyway, my perception of all this negativity toward Madonna is a form of obsession, and it is no different from her fans that obsess over her in a positive way. Either way, both the anti-Madonna team, and the pro-Madonna team are both exerting energy to express feelings about Madonna, so to me both teams are obsessing over her.

starrynight · 12-28-2011, 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by RMR

if Michael Jackson is the King of pop, I would certainly call her the Queen.

He isn't.

But all this King, Queen stuff I think is meaningless hype anyway which I suspect some (I'm not saying you) take too seriously.

12-28-2011, 03:18 PM	#89 (permalink)
RMR Front to Back Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Richmond, Virginia Posts: 360	I said a a few weeks ago or whenever this thread started that I don't mind Madonna's output and enjoy quite a bit of her catalog. I'm not a super-fan or anything, but if Michael Jackson is the King of pop, I would certainly call her the Queen. Anyway, my perception of all this negativity toward Madonna is a form of obsession, and it is no different from her fans that obsess over her in a positive way. Either way, both the anti-Madonna team, and the pro-Madonna team are both exerting energy to express feelings about Madonna, so to me both teams are obsessing over her. __________________ RMR My music reivew site: RMR Music Reviews

12-28-2011, 07:13 AM	#87 (permalink)
simonbrew Groupie Join Date: Dec 2011 Location: East London Posts: 25	madonna is pretty lame, i mean shes a pop star and nothing ore...oh and also a crappy actress when people do allow her in movies, anyone who takes criticism of her too seriously - clearly cant see a perspective of her outside that lame ass fanbase.