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Old 12-24-2011, 12:34 PM   #21 (permalink)
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Off topic... I read in the current issue of Classic Rock Magazine that Brian May is considering Lady Ga Ga as front woman for a possible upcoming Queen tour. No one can replace Freddie, but I would actually love to see that.
Sounds like just another excuse to supplement her vanity. If she replaces a gay man who died of aids in a band, it'll simply be another tool for her to continue this ridiculous illogical martyrdom for all ills of gays thing she's doing.

As for the other portion of the equation. May obviously just sees the financial opportunities in this. I'm sure he's not a poor man by any stretch off of Queen royalties, but he certainly isn't making the kind of dough he'd probably pull in from milking a tit like Lady Gaga before she runs dry.
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Old 12-24-2011, 12:40 PM   #22 (permalink)
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Sounds like just another excuse to supplement her vanity. If she replaces a gay man who died of aids in a band, it'll simply be another tool for her to continue this ridiculous illogical martyrdom for all ills of gays thing she's doing.
That's not entirely fair... Freddie Mercury was bi for a start!

Furthermore, I think a lot of people would do anything for the chance to perform with Queen, and Brian May is clearly prepared to let her. I'll be interested in seeing how this pans out all the same.

Apart from "We Will Rock You", I will turn off the TV the second that comes on.
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Furthermore, I think a lot of people would do anything for the chance to perform with Queen
You're saying this as if cash isn't the only factor by both parties.
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You're saying this as if cash isn't the only factor by both parties.
Don't be silly! Neither has been in music for the sake of music for years.

I have a nagging suspicion that sex might be a factor too.
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I don't know how may people will start making awful jokes about "Radio Gaga".
It said in the article that Lady Ga Ga took her name from the Queen song "Radio Ga Ga" that you mention (which I didn't know), so she's obviously a fan. I'm certainly not waiving the Lady Ga Ga flag here, but I would go see that. I love Queen, and it would certainly be an interesting twist.

In retrospect, while writing this-- I realized that I was picturing myself at a Queen concert with Queen fans, when in actuality it would end up being a Lady Ga Ga concert with Lady Ga Ga fans-- with Queen only as her back up band, and that does not interest me at all.
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Well first of all, Madonna has a fairly large homosexual fan base, so to think she got anywhere because of her boobs isn'texactly spot on. As a straight man, i think she's not very attractive.

If I have to assess her career, I'd say she was a gerat tactician. She knew how to stay relevent by changing her sound up. The inherent message in doing that is "see how talented I am - I can do anything." For me personally, thats like saying you're a Mathematical genius because you can add, subtract, divide, and multiply with equal skill. It might be true, but the range is lacking.

She did Spanish music, techno, was timely and spoke about issues that were supposedly taboo at the time. I think anyone out there on social issues risks making their career a gimmick so I try not to pay attention to them. She hasn't really been relevent in about 10 years at most so I don't know where this topic came from but I think she's a better business woman than musician.

Also, I hate her Kabalah, fake british accent, smoked-jerky-looking body. I also hate her kids name.
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In retrospect, while writing this-- I realized that I was picturing myself at a Queen concert with Queen fans, when in actuality it would end up being a Lady Ga Ga concert with Lady Ga Ga fans-- with Queen only as her back up band, and that does not interest me at all.
This is exactly why. Pop music is fine, but I really don't like pop concerts, particularly with her "monsters" or whatever her fan club is called these days.
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Well first of all, Madonna has a fairly large homosexual fan base, so to think she got anywhere because of her boobs isn'texactly spot on. As a straight man, i think she's not very attractive.
I don't either. However, I think you have to remember the gay fanbase latches on due to the fact that campy disco type stuff is their thing. That's what keeps her in business, but not what made her humongous. What made her humongous in the 80s was the controversy her videos generated.

By today's standards, they're what EVERY pop star does. At her time, they were edgy, but not nearly as. But during her time, music video centric hysteria was massive. Both right, and left wing politicians were on the crusade, and she was there at the right time to be the witch for them to try to burn.

I mean, after all, they were throwing fits about Twisted Sister's looney tunes videos. Madonna's videos were way harsher. Considering how drenched with cleavage (and fairly enough half naked men, which probably helps with the gay audience) they were, how can that publicity not skyrocket you into superfame?
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I don't either. However, I think you have to remember the gay fanbase latches on due to the fact that campy disco type stuff is their thing. That's what keeps her in business, but not what made her humongous. What made her humongous in the 80s was the controversy her videos generated.

By today's standards, they're what EVERY pop star does. At her time, they were edgy, but not nearly as. But during her time, music video centric hysteria was massive. Both right, and left wing politicians were on the crusade, and she was there at the right time to be the witch for them to try to burn.

I mean, after all, they were throwing fits about Twisted Sister's looney tunes videos. Madonna's videos were way harsher. Considering how drenched with cleavage (and fairly enough half naked men, which probably helps with the gay audience) they were, how can that publicity not skyrocket you into superfame?
Yeh gay icon stuff tends to happen more later with some female singers as they decline or in retrospect, not really when they start out and are normally at their peak. Madonna was considered sexy in some way when she started out.
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I quite like Madonna for a pop female artist, and I think she's quite talented. Unlike many of her successors, she wasn't manufactured by an agent with a recording contract in place. In response to many of the posters, I agree with Salami in that I don't think her fans are overly zealous (a la Lady Ga Ga), and I agree with Il Duce, I really like "Into the Groove"... definitely my favorite Madonna song. Plus, Madonna is an actual musician and played guitar, drums, and sang in a band (The Breakfast Club) before her solo career took off. She's also a professionally trained dancer, so I don't think her talent can be questioned.

Off topic... I read in the current issue of Classic Rock Magazine that Brian May is considering Lady Ga Ga as front woman for a possible upcoming Queen tour. No one can replace Freddie, but I would actually love to see that.
My encounters with obsessed Madonna fans admittedly is few but I'm just curious as to how someone would be obsessed with her and why her music outsold other many artists of her time. Obviously she was a star ecause of her antics but wouldn't people have some time of discernment to separate entertainment from quality music?

Lady Gaga's music is average but her individual talent far surpasses Madonna. If she really wanted to she could make very good music but she (like many other artists) is too concerned with money and fame to take that route.
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