Why is Madonna so overrated?

RMR · 12-29-2011, 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by starrynight

He isn't.

But all this King, Queen stuff I think is meaningless hype anyway which I suspect some (I'm not saying you) take too seriously.

Agree completely... I think Michael Jackson really only had two significant albums (Thriller and Bad), so I would hardly call him the King of Pop.

Yea, my comment on the queen and king of pop was completely tongue and cheek.

sopsych · 12-29-2011, 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Necromancer

I personally don't see her music or career as being so much overrated. Just "80s vibe" (danceable) pop music.

Into The Groove, Open Your Heart, Lucky Star, and Borderline are few personal favorites to mention.

Live To Tell was always my favorite song by her.

That's one of my two favorites of hers. The other is "Oh Father."

I like many of her other ballads (which she basically stopped making or at least releasing by 2000). I like some of her 80's dance songs, too, including "Into the Groove" and "Where's the Party." More recently, "Deeper and Deeper." That's as someone who generally dislikes dance songs. Also, I think "Beautiful Stranger" is the one of best upbeat pop songs of the last 20 years. In my opinion, Madonna's post-1990 output isn't impressive, but still most of the singles have been decent.

That being said, I think Madonna is an awful person and sort of back-hand compliment her for improving her singing midway through her career.

Short answer: no, I don't think Madonna is overrated.

starrynight · 12-30-2011, 04:14 AM

I really like the verse of Into The Groove, but the chorus seems to lack some of the character there is in songs like Material Girl and Like A Virgin from around the same time. And the middle section sounds a bit plodding maybe.

Surell · 12-30-2011, 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Paloma

I love Madonna, idegaf

Dig it.

Howard the Duck · 12-30-2011, 10:32 AM

she started to disintegrate around Papa Don't Preach, methinks

got into her again after the Frozen and Ray of Light singles, but she fell off my radar again after that

Franco Pepe Kalle · 01-10-2012, 07:58 PM

Madonna is someone who is talented but her music is below par but she knows how to be a goodass sex pot. I mean she was the pioneer of obscene music we see more today. She unlike Michael Jackson, wanted music for people who were big perverts. Homosexuals were really her fan base. Madonna did make some good songs but most songs are the perverted ones. Wonder why she is considered a sex pot. Now her daughter Lady Gaga has power and is more annoying than Madonna. I would rather be with Madonna than Lady Gaga.

Howard the Duck · 01-10-2012, 08:04 PM

^^prude!

RMR · 01-10-2012, 08:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Franco Pepe Kalle

Madonna is someone who is talented but her music is below par but she knows how to be a goodass sex pot. I mean she was the pioneer of obscene music we see more today. She unlike Michael Jackson, wanted music for people who were big perverts. Homosexuals were really her fan base. Madonna did make some good songs but most songs are the perverted ones. Wonder why she is considered a sex pot. Now her daughter Lady Gaga has power and is more annoying than Madonna. I would rather be with Madonna than Lady Gaga.

This is a serious of odd comments...

"I mean she was the pioneer of obscene music we see more today."
Madonna was certainty not the pioneer of obscene music, and most of her music is not obscene at all

She unlike Michael Jackson, wanted music for people who were big perverts. Homosexuals were really her fan base.
What facts are you basing this on? I think it is absurd to claim that Madonna targeted perverts and homosexuals. Some homosexuals might be Madonna fans, but "perverts" has severe negative connotations, and I'm not sure what you mean by that.

I would rather be with Madonna than Lady Gaga
Can't tell if your whole post is tongue in cheek or serious

sopsych · 01-10-2012, 10:45 PM

Madonna did popularize the oversexed music video trend, which I think has been bad for future artists (image instead of substance). And I'm personally too turned off by her personality to have ever much enjoyed her looks.

**Scarlett O'Hara** · 01-11-2012, 12:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Franco Pepe Kalle

Madonna is someone who is talented but her music is below par but she knows how to be a goodass sex pot. I mean she was the pioneer of obscene music we see more today. She unlike Michael Jackson, wanted music for people who were big perverts. Homosexuals were really her fan base. Madonna did make some good songs but most songs are the perverted ones. Wonder why she is considered a sex pot. Now her daughter Lady Gaga has power and is more annoying than Madonna. I would rather be with Madonna than Lady Gaga.

Why is Lady Gaga brought up every time Madonna is? Get over it people, yes Gaga borrows from her, it doesn't need to be said 100 times I'm pretty sure unless someone has been living under a rock they will see the comparison.

12-30-2011, 04:14 AM	#103 (permalink)
starrynight Music Addict Join Date: Mar 2011 Posts: 937	I really like the verse of Into The Groove, but the chorus seems to lack some of the character there is in songs like Material Girl and Like A Virgin from around the same time. And the middle section sounds a bit plodding maybe. __________________ non-cliquey member of every music forum I participate on

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Franco Pepe Kalle Mwana Nzala Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Shakopee, Minnesota Posts: 627	Madonna is someone who is talented but her music is below par but she knows how to be a goodass sex pot. I mean she was the pioneer of obscene music we see more today. She unlike Michael Jackson, wanted music for people who were big perverts. Homosexuals were really her fan base. Madonna did make some good songs but most songs are the perverted ones. Wonder why she is considered a sex pot. Now her daughter Lady Gaga has power and is more annoying than Madonna. I would rather be with Madonna than Lady Gaga. __________________ The problem with Franco Pepe Kalle is that he is a unpredictable character. There is surprising info about this man. You think he only likes Franco and Pepe Kalle but when you find out that he hears other artists, you are shock. Girls are the sexy thing that God created. Important to notice FPK.

01-10-2012, 10:45 PM	#109 (permalink)
sopsych Music Addict Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: indoors Posts: 722	Madonna did popularize the oversexed music video trend, which I think has been bad for future artists (image instead of substance). And I'm personally too turned off by her personality to have ever much enjoyed her looks.