The Evolution of Music: Accident, or Adaptation?

blastingas10 · 12-15-2011, 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by SIRIUSB

I was only replying to the 'origin' of music in humans. I too believe there is something way more to music than simply bonding.

As do I, but saying that almost seems to demean the importance of the musical bond. It's a highly important bond. There aren't many more connections that are more powerful than the one that is communicated through music.

SIRIUSB · 12-15-2011, 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by blastingas10

As do I, but saying that almost seems to demean the importance of the musical bond. It's a highly important bond. There aren't many more connections that are more powerful than the one that is communicated through music.

Perhaps it points towards something beyond the 'human' bond?

blastingas10 · 12-15-2011, 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by SIRIUSB

Perhaps it points towards something beyond the 'human' bond?

I think so. Perhaps the bonding of souls.

blankety blank · 12-16-2011, 12:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Pedestrian

Steven, I have no idea what the **** you are talking about 90% of the time.

Take the 90 percent, and contemplate, or study. It's not rocket science. It's hard to understand, but, with some insight and effort, it makes perfect sense. It's the effort part that people in general do not engage.

Which is why I receive so many insults. You did not insult me, so it does not include you. Those who choose to ostracize someone for presenting things not understood, are the ones who will someday. It's not pleasant finding things out the easy and broad way. Which is a hard lesson.

It sucks big time to find out Truth after you pass on this carcass. And, it is a carcass. We are indeed the walking dead, and are clueless.

The whole business of tying music as a process of 'evolutionism' into some kind biological metamorphosis, that progressed over time is demonstrated in reverse, exactly the manner in which everything is showing signs of regressing. Any, especially a Nobel winning biologist would certainly know the Hierarchy of the biological order of life, both old and new.

One would think anyway.

I am here to condescend, or ridicule anyone. I am actually attempting to open some eyes to see, and, I am not obligated to anything. I choose to, because, I have a bit of sympathy, and Love for beings, I should not care about, so it says.

I am actually surprised to know that is only 90%, and not higher. My last post should have raised that percentage a bit

Good for you to grasp 10%

And, once again I have not insulted anyone. Nor, have I been injurious in my words, but, I will be accused again. No offense pedestrian, I do not condemn or judge people personally. That is task folks bring on themselves. It's not a pleasant experience, I can attest to that.

There is a judgment, you can take that to the bank. I've witnessed it, and, it is humiliating, as an understatement.

But, music is what this site involves. Music speaks to you. Words speak to me. So, if you can relate to the lyrics, then you are a seer. If not, it's a good song.

I imagine long walks down the road
Things begin to bloom and the sky explodes
The damage is undone, and then I know
This has got to be a
Dream machines and luxuries don't last
I took my sleep for granted in the past
And I woke up half-dead in the hourglass
Now, does that sound funny?

Wait, you're almost there
It's gone
You're almost there
It's gone
You're almost where what follows you, does not bother you

I have walked the tightrope parts of me
Towed the line just far enough to see
Never found a gift I got for free
You pay for them dearly
I see my forever is one long night
If I can make it dark, I can make it light
I know that most of living done is done in the mind
Only thought survives

Wait, you're almost there
It's gone
You're almost there
It's gone
You're almost where what follows you, does not bother you

Are you tired?
Are you uninspired?
Does the miscommunication try to eat you up inside?
And I am here, as you are here
And everything I want to know is
Sleeping in your ears!

Wait, you're almost there; it's gone
You're almost there; it's gone
You're almost where what follows you, does not bother you

Wait, you're almost there it's gone
You're almost there it's gone
You're almost where what follows you, does not...

Stephen · 12-16-2011, 12:50 AM

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Originally Posted by steveeden888

I am here to condescend...

Good for you to grasp 10%

Mission accomplished

blastingas10 · 12-16-2011, 12:55 AM

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Originally Posted by steveeden888

Take the 90 percent, and contemplate, or study. It's not rocket science. It's hard to understand, but, with some insight and effort, it makes perfect sense. It's the effort part that people in general do not engage.

Which is why I receive so many insults. You did not insult me, so it does not include you. Those who choose to ostracize someone for presenting things not understood, are the ones who will someday. It's not pleasant finding things out the easy and broad way. Which is a hard lesson.

It sucks big time to find out Truth after you pass on this carcass. And, it is a carcass. We are indeed the walking dead, and are clueless.

The whole business of tying music as a process of 'evolutionism' into some kind biological metamorphosis, that progressed over time is demonstrated in reverse, exactly the manner in which everything is showing signs of regressing. Any, especially a Nobel winning biologist would certainly know the Hierarchy of the biological order of life, both old and new.

One would think anyway.

I am here to condescend, or ridicule anyone. I am actually attempting to open some eyes to see, and, I am not obligated to anything. I choose to, because, I have a bit of sympathy, and Love for beings, I should not care about, so it says.

I am actually surprised to know that is only 90%, and not higher. My last post should have raised that percentage a bit

Good for you to grasp 10%

And, once again I have not insulted anyone. Nor, have I been injurious in my words, but, I will be accused again. No offense pedestrian, I do not condemn or judge people personally. That is task folks bring on themselves. It's not a pleasant experience, I can attest to that.

There is a judgment, you can take that to the bank. I've witnessed it, and, it is humiliating, as an understatement.

But, music is what this site involves. Music speaks to you. Words speak to me. So, if you can relate to the lyrics, then you are a seer. If not, it's a good song.

I imagine long walks down the road
Things begin to bloom and the sky explodes
The damage is undone, and then I know
This has got to be a
Dream machines and luxuries don't last
I took my sleep for granted in the past
And I woke up half-dead in the hourglass
Now, does that sound funny?

Wait, you're almost there
It's gone
You're almost there
It's gone
You're almost where what follows you, does not bother you

I have walked the tightrope parts of me
Towed the line just far enough to see
Never found a gift I got for free
You pay for them dearly
I see my forever is one long night
If I can make it dark, I can make it light
I know that most of living done is done in the mind
Only thought survives

Wait, you're almost there
It's gone
You're almost there
It's gone
You're almost where what follows you, does not bother you

Are you tired?
Are you uninspired?
Does the miscommunication try to eat you up inside?
And I am here, as you are here
And everything I want to know is
Sleeping in your ears!

Wait, you're almost there; it's gone
You're almost there; it's gone
You're almost where what follows you, does not bother you

Wait, you're almost there it's gone
You're almost there it's gone
You're almost where what follows you, does not...

I don't mind your comments, Steve. They are certainly thought provoking.

ThePhanastasio · 12-16-2011, 01:03 AM

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Originally Posted by steveeden888

Take the 90 percent, and contemplate, or study. It's not rocket science. It's hard to understand, but, with some insight and effort, it makes perfect sense. It's the effort part that people in general do not engage.

Which is why I receive so many insults. You did not insult me, so it does not include you. Those who choose to ostracize someone for presenting things not understood, are the ones who will someday. It's not pleasant finding things out the easy and broad way. Which is a hard lesson.

It sucks big time to find out Truth after you pass on this carcass. And, it is a carcass. We are indeed the walking dead, and are clueless.

The whole business of tying music as a process of 'evolutionism' into some kind biological metamorphosis, that progressed over time is demonstrated in reverse, exactly the manner in which everything is showing signs of regressing. Any, especially a Nobel winning biologist would certainly know the Hierarchy of the biological order of life, both old and new.

One would think anyway.

I am here to condescend, or ridicule anyone. I am actually attempting to open some eyes to see, and, I am not obligated to anything. I choose to, because, I have a bit of sympathy, and Love for beings, I should not care about, so it says.

I am actually surprised to know that is only 90%, and not higher. My last post should have raised that percentage a bit

Good for you to grasp 10%

And, once again I have not insulted anyone. Nor, have I been injurious in my words, but, I will be accused again. No offense pedestrian, I do not condemn or judge people personally. That is task folks bring on themselves. It's not a pleasant experience, I can attest to that.

There is a judgment, you can take that to the bank. I've witnessed it, and, it is humiliating, as an understatement.

Weirdly enough (or perhaps not weirdly?) this is not entirely dissimilar to my world view.

Your musical opinion, however, is somewhat dissimilar to what I believe.

I do legitimately believe that musical taste is 100% subjective (not some 99.99999999% nonsense) and wholly based on personal experience. As a young person searching for her place in the world, I was in a production of The Laramie Project, protested by a Mr. Fred Phelps, and met Judy Shepard (the mother of Matthew Shepard) prior to performing said play. It was at this point in my life that I truly understood that there is no true "right" and no true "wrong"; it's all based on personal experience. While I feel that my views align with "good / right" more often than not, I also acknowledge that I could be completely ****ing wrong.

I mean - what if Ke$ha was legitimately the most technically sound musician that had ever graced the Earth? I don't agree with this, but what if it was right?

At this point, I decided that "Damn all - I don't care what's right; I will entertain any notions to the contrary, but I'm going to go with what I feel first and foremost."

Honestly, that made me the most happy I'd been in a long while.

Basically what I'm saying is this: Don't condemn others because their tastes don't align with yours. Embrace yourself as an individual, and be accepting of the viewpoints of others.

And don't post to MB so drunk that you can't see your keyboard.

starrynight · 12-16-2011, 04:06 AM

I've tried to resist commenting, but I can't believe anybody takes someone seriously someone that says they can read someone's aura who is a complete stranger to them. But then this arrogance of presuming to know and judge people who are complete strangers is pretty common to people as I know.

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Originally Posted by blastingas10

I don't mind your comments

Well I did mind.

Anyway hopefully getting back to the music after the highjacking of this thread that has run amok......

I don't like looking at music as completely relativistic. Personal experience does play a roll to me, but it's the matter of learning and growing to understand an art. This learning probably never reaches a conclusion, some don't even bother to travel most of the way (their choice obviously).

~~Rubato~~ · 12-16-2011, 06:30 AM

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Originally Posted by steveeden888

But, music is what this site involves. Music speaks to you. Words speak to me. So, if you can relate to the lyrics, then you are a seer. If not, it's a good song.

I'd put lyrics under poetry rather than music. The two art forms may have merged together into song, but they're still very separate studies.

Salami · 12-16-2011, 10:27 AM

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Originally Posted by steveeden888

Take the 90 percent, and contemplate, or study. It's not rocket science. It's hard to understand, but, with some insight and effort, it makes perfect sense. It's the effort part that people in general do not engage.

Steven, I know you must have many wonderful things to say to us, but please don't talk down to us. If you are hear to "condescend", then there's very little chance of us wanting to listen to you.

Just please try and present what you want in a more friendly and less assertive manner.